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Re: CoreJS: State of the project? Looks like dead. Any official fork?

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post #49

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Except the comment that the commented you quoted is answering to?

see the three dots i had in there? that's me being lazy and not quoting the whole hyperbole.

But your criticism was about my take on the judgement, not the conditions that are common in Russian prisons (and no, it's not hyperbole, I have an acquaintance who worked with MSF on TB in Russian prisons: https://www.msf.org/tb-prisons-containing-catastrophe).

Re: CoreJS: State of the project? Looks like dead. Any official fork?

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post #61
post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

see the three dots i had in there? that's me being lazy and not quoting the whole hyperbole.

But your criticism was about my take on the judgement, not the conditions that are common in Russian prisons (and no, it's not hyperbole, I have an acquaintance who worked with MSF on TB in Russian prisons: https://www.msf.org/tb-prisons-containing-catastrophe ).

okay, sorry, just felt based on many comments here that people are being emotional.

if you read below, someone who can actually read the court documents said the victim was not lying around, but actually helping the other person.

just too much unknown to form our own personal judgement here. that's all i was trying to say.

Re: CoreJS: State of the project? Looks like dead. Any official fork?

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post #33

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If you'll permit a tangent, there are a lot of drunk pedestrian fatalities. I don't think we talk enough about the risk of drunk walking. Over one third of pedestrians killed in the US each year have been drinking too much to drive. https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/08/05/drunk-...

I don't think you want to discourage drunk walking because that will lead to more drunk driving which is a lot more dangerous to other people.

I'm not encouraging drunk driving, but rather getting an Uber.

Or at the very least, to walk cautiously after having several drinks.

Re: CoreJS: State of the project? Looks like dead. Any official fork?

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post #33

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If you'll permit a tangent, there are a lot of drunk pedestrian fatalities. I don't think we talk enough about the risk of drunk walking. Over one third of pedestrians killed in the US each year have been drinking too much to drive. https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/08/05/drunk-...

I don't think you want to discourage drunk walking because that will lead to more drunk driving which is a lot more dangerous to other people.

Both drunk driving and drunk walking near a road should be very much discouraged. Hailing a cab should be encouraged instead.

No, being outside so drunk that you can't control yourself enough to correctly cross a street is not a "not a big deal".

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Yes, but they were lying flat on the road, intoxicated.

If the google translation wasn’t too faulty, one was still lying down, one was getting up and probably trying to get out of the way. The main impediment to seeing them seems to be the headlights of oncoming cars, possibly while coming over a hill. I always slow down in exactly those circumstances (hill and oncoming headlights) for similar reasons: you just don’t know what’s over the hill, and it’s an extra few second…

There's a medium between being a super careful driver like you and I, and being a grossly negligent driver who drove in such a grossly negligent manner that they deserve over a year in a harsh prison system.

I highly recommend driving like you say, and do so myself. The last points on my license were were over 15 years ago. But I don't think someone who was failed to be extremely careful to this level deserves 1.5 years in a harsh prison system. Maybe lose his license, but not prison.

Re: CoreJS: State of the project? Looks like dead. Any official fork?

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What a wild ride this has been. Looking at the police report, I do wonder what the punishment would be in other countries. It seems the victims were laying drunk on the ground in dark clothing at top a hill (edit: hill not mentioned in police report, but seems logical given the headlight statement), causing the headlight beams to not illuminate them. On top of that, incoming traffic blinded the driver. This is of cou…

If you'll permit a tangent, there are a lot of drunk pedestrian fatalities. I don't think we talk enough about the risk of drunk walking. Over one third of pedestrians killed in the US each year have been drinking too much to drive. https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/08/05/drunk-...

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Re: CoreJS: State of the project? Looks like dead. Any official fork?

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What a wild ride this has been. Looking at the police report, I do wonder what the punishment would be in other countries. It seems the victims were laying drunk on the ground in dark clothing at top a hill (edit: hill not mentioned in police report, but seems logical given the headlight statement), causing the headlight beams to not illuminate them. On top of that, incoming traffic blinded the driver. This is of cou…

Honestly I could see that happening to me. Some cars have lights that make it hard to see clearly on my side of the road. I wish car windshields could shield your eyes from lights too bright or something. Especially now that cars have these bright LED lights depending on the angle they are as bad as high beams when they pierce your eyes. I kinda hate driving at night. People can barely keep from getting into accident…

This was in a motorcycle.

Re: CoreJS: State of the project? Looks like dead. Any official fork?

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post #13

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Evidently, it was his legal problems that provoked the job request and console ads, so I'm sympathetic. And based on the description above, it's highly unlikely that he would have been charged in most countries. The person who died was lying on the road at night, in dark clothes, intoxicated. Sympathy to her family, but that would count as an exculpating circumstance in most Western countries, I'm fairly sure. I sure…

I can read Russian. According to the information from the court: 1) he lost an appeal, meaning that his case was in the court at least two times. 2) the dead victim was not lying on the road, that’s false information. She was trying to remove other victim from the crosswalk. Knowing the motorcycle culture in Russia I would not be sympathetic to anyone there - it has nothing to do with safety on the road.

Fair enough. That's why I wrote that disclaimer. If one victim was dragging the other, that changes my perception somewhat, although not entirely.

And in terms of "culture", are there not people in Russia who just ride motorcycles as an inexpensive transportation option, and not as part of any particular culture or group? The guy in question looks like a typical geek, not a motorcycle gang member or something similar.

Re: CoreJS: State of the project? Looks like dead. Any official fork?

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post #30

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Yes, but this wasn't a library parking lot. This was a roadway, at night, and he appears to have been going the speed limit. And the victim was lying down on the roadway in dark clothes. And there was an oncoming car with high beams on according to the court findings. So you think that he should spend 1.5 years in a Russian prison for that? A sentence that may very well ruin him psychologically for the rest of his li…

I said the judgment is reasonable but reserve my judgment on the sentence. I’m saying people should drive safer. That’s all. A good portion of my reasoning comes from my daily dealings with my kids. This case bears many strong resemblances to arguments they come to me with. Edit to clarify: when my kids come to me with an argument because one was careless and hurt another, the defense is usually that they were acting…

If this judging happens as much as you imply here and in your other comments in this thread, you should probably look at the parenting dynamic you have created and look for ways to change it. It sounds like are encouraging your kids into a dysfunctional competition for your approval and by extension love. You should be teaching them to work out their own differences, not teaching them to appeal everything to you. The former is a great life skill, the later is not.
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