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Covid-19: Landlords will kill our economy

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Re: Covid-19: Landlords will kill our economy

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And where's someone unemployed going to get 3 month's of rent if they only work in 0 or 1 of the next 3 months?

That's why you're supposed to have savings, but it seems these days people prefer to spend frivolously

But we've increased rent to rule out savings.

Re: Covid-19: Landlords will kill our economy

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To me, under circumstances universal income may be the most sensible solution. Which would also largely avoid questions like this one (btw everyone still going to take a hit - no doubt about that, but at least it could be negotiated between parties then). Governments still need to figure out if they have enough resources though - it's a lot of work if one is willing to take it. Unfortunately, what I see instead here…

Do you own a business? Why do you think universal income solves the problem of an entertainment company that is legally shutdown, has zero income, and can’t pay it’s bills? At it’s core, aren’t you just suggesting we become communists (for a while?). Disclaimer: I am from what might be called a liberal socialist capitalist country (I might call myself a capitalist hippy).

The goal is to get organized. Whatever the solution might be I'm sure people will call it communism and they might not be to far off either.

Wait! You just gave me a hilarious idea! If people have to stay home for months we might as well pay them to enroll in some kind of online course. You know, re-education, only without the camp.

Re: Covid-19: Landlords will kill our economy

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It's really concerning here that so many comments basically amount to let's ban all landlords. It's really dumb, people clearly have not thought it through.

Lets make everyone the owner of the place they live in right now. It is our country and we can do what we like? no?

Re: Covid-19: Landlords will kill our economy

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> Ban rent for COVID-19-affected businesses Landlords have mortgages and a host of other associated costs. If this were made a policy in the UK, you'd have a huge number of small-time buy-to-let landlords going bankrupt and losing their nest-egg to the bank.

It's a get-rich-quick scheme that has inflated house prices. These landlords aren't providing any value — they're literally rent-seeking.

Someone has to pull the short straw.

If I put a plastic egg in your nest, does that by natural law make me the owner of your eggs?

Re: Covid-19: Landlords will kill our economy

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You fail to realise that in a lot of cases the landlord is also the one who gave himself the mortgage. Quite a lot of commercial real-estate is owned by financial institutions and when it isn't the trust fund shareholder is also on the board of directors of the bank.

You fail to realise that in a lot of the cases the landlord is also the tenant. Anyone who owns a house or condo is a landlord... cutting the landlords income for a month is a big problem.

It is to fundamentally misunderstand the notion of what a landlord is when you consider someone who is simultaneously a tenant. You cannot charge yourself to rent space you own. They may occupy a space in the building but that does not make them a tenant. A tenant is someone who rents precisely because they do not own the space

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The "benefit" obtained by rent is, mainly, permission. When the authoer says landlords don't provide much benefit to society, I think they are comparing against a society in which landlords don't exist. The author pays rent because they have no choice if they want permission to use a property; all available properties are owned by landlords. (You can tell it's more about permission than service provided, because ther…

The benefit of rent is that they are allowing you to use the property for $1,000 per month instead of having you buy the property upfront for $1,000,000.

What universe do you live in that a $1,000,000 property leases for $1,000/mo?

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The "benefit" obtained by rent is, mainly, permission. When the authoer says landlords don't provide much benefit to society, I think they are comparing against a society in which landlords don't exist. The author pays rent because they have no choice if they want permission to use a property; all available properties are owned by landlords. (You can tell it's more about permission than service provided, because ther…

The benefit of rent is that they are allowing you to use the property for $1,000 per month instead of having you buy the property upfront for $1,000,000.

they aren't selling they are seeking rent.

Re: Covid-19: Landlords will kill our economy

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The benefit of rent is that they are allowing you to use the property for $1,000 per month instead of having you buy the property upfront for $1,000,000.

What universe do you live in that a $1,000,000 property leases for $1,000/mo?

It had me read a bit and 1% is kinda normal for a normal home. If that pushes it to far above what people can pay or to far above what rents are paid for similar properties one would usually lower it.

If there is enough inequality in the area the 0.1% rent could be realistic.

Re: Covid-19: Landlords will kill our economy

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I think you would see the benefit if you got rid of landlords and let anarchy rule real estate.

It wouldn't be anarchy. It would be government controlled and distributed based on whatever criteria. I'm sure there are other ways to distribute it too. You don't need to only imagine either this current system existing or anarchy.

It already is anarchy. I can just sneeze on my land lord.

Re: Covid-19: Landlords will kill our economy

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I think most landlords are wealthy people who are easily placed to weather this financial crisis. By definition if you are wealthy enough to own property beyond one house then you’re wealthy enough to survive this. And if you can’t afford to, then sell it and suffer like all the other real business owners are suffering. Why should landlords be a protected species in all this?

most "landlords" are regular folks with a mortgage and would get wiped out just as easily as the tenants
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