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Re: Zoom monitors activity on your computer

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Lawyerspeak: "It's just boilerplate." Translation: "Yeah, that's one of the parts where we really screw you, but you don't have a choice, lol."

We do though. Apply our agency to providing free software solutions that don’t that. I suppose it’s easier to be a nihilist and complain though.

Let me tell work that I can't collaborate remotely anymore on video because I am using my agency to refuse to use Zoom even though everyone else at the whole company does. Then they can use their agency to put me on a PIP because my choice hindered my ability to do my job.

I'm sure you realize it's not as easy as you say, but I suppose it's easier to assert that situations don't have nuance because then you can make blanket statements like you did.

Re: Zoom monitors activity on your computer

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Lawyerspeak: "It's just boilerplate." Translation: "Yeah, that's one of the parts where we really screw you, but you don't have a choice, lol."

You have a choice to not use Zoom.

Sure! Except it was mandated by your boss. Or you have a choice between a bunch of offerings with the exact same screwball terms. This might not actually be true for videoconferencing now that it's getting somewhat democratized and competitive.

Point is: "just boilerplate" is just rationalization. An honest person would never present it as comforting and a knowledgeable person would never find it comforting. Of course, the world is full of dishonest people, so it gets used all the time. Hence "lawyerspeak."

Re: Zoom monitors activity on your computer

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Lawyerspeak: "It's just boilerplate." Translation: "Yeah, that's one of the parts where we really screw you, but you don't have a choice, lol."

You have a choice to not use Zoom.

Not really if your lecturer or boss requires it for lectures, meetings or team communication.

Re: Zoom monitors activity on your computer

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Then they don't have it.

How do you know that? These statements leave other possibilities open: It covers all Personal Data that you affirmatively provide during your interactions with us, information that we automatically collect when you interact with our Products, and information that we collect about you from third parties Whether you have Zoom account or not, we may collect Personal Data from or about you when you use or otherwise inter…

It says "when you use or otherwise interact with our Products."

It's not unreasonable. I'm not sure what your claim is here, because you'll find this language in every single online business. You realize Zoom sells enterprise video conferencing right? They have no use for your data otherwise.

Re: Zoom monitors activity on your computer

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You have a choice to not use Zoom.

Sure! Except it was mandated by your boss. Or you have a choice between a bunch of offerings with the exact same screwball terms. This might not actually be true for videoconferencing now that it's getting somewhat democratized and competitive. Point is: "just boilerplate" is just rationalization. An honest person would never present it as comforting and a knowledgeable person would never find it comforting. Of cours…

Do you refuse to use any other software mandated by your company? What's the difference?

It's standard policy to cover any potential personal data that they might receive. What is your concern exactly? That they shouldn't spell it out? That would be illegal under current data regulations.

Re: Zoom monitors activity on your computer

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EFF seems to be the source: https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2020/03/what-you-should-know-a... > If attendees of a meeting do not have the Zoom video window in focus during a call where the host is screen-sharing, after 30 seconds the host can see indicators next to each participant’s name indicating that the Zoom window is not active. It doesn't seem too invasive, although of course it'd still be annoying if you have t…

This feature is primarily used in educational-type settings so instructors can tell that students aren't paying attention to something else.

As far as I've been able to determine, there is no collection of "apps" or other data, just "not paying attention" time.

Re: Zoom monitors activity on your computer

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You have a choice to not use Zoom.

Not really if your lecturer or boss requires it for lectures, meetings or team communication.

What information do you not want to share that you think they have but don't need?
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