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Why not? Maybe not in an airplane and not at an airport, but the same general idea.
We've got all those 737s...
Not sure if this is supposed to be better. And who would fly all these people? Access to the cockpit is through the rest of the plane.
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It's too bad we can't put sick people in an airplane, put oxygen masks on them, shut the door, and pressurize the cabin. Like a hospital, but at the airport.
I imagine oxygen masks in airplanes aren't as sterile as needed. Planes are horribly cramped and if you filled every seat you would be violating social distancing while filling them with sick people. I can think of a few other criticisms, but those are probably the most defensible concerns.
Looks like similar portable ventilators already exist in the market: https://mfimedical.com/products/allied-healthcare-epv200-por...
Those are even made in the USA with a local supply chain. http://www.alliedhpi.com/mcv.htm
10 "in stock," $3,124.01 each.
There's also another model MCV200, 10 "in stock," $5,091.71 each.
Anyone got $95 grand lying around?
Edit: btw, in 2006/2008, the AARC recommended to the White House and/or HHS to buy 10k additional ventilators for the SNS, but the govt failed to do so. Now, the US, is for lack of better adjectives, royally-proper fucked.
https://www.aarc.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/issue-paper-...
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I imagine oxygen masks in airplanes aren't as sterile as needed. Planes are horribly cramped and if you filled every seat you would be violating social distancing while filling them with sick people. I can think of a few other criticisms, but those are probably the most defensible concerns.
If everyone on the plane already has covid-19 then social distancing doesn't matter.
Covid19 is not the only germs they will be carrying. The people who are the sickest are the ones that most need oxygen supplementation. Reports suggest that most of the people dying from it already have other serious medical conditions.
This is exactly how antibiotic resistant infections get bred. You would be creating a melting pot of horribleness and cross-contamination and god-knows-what would come spewing out of it.
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I just saw an interview with an Italian physician where he briefly mentioned therapies for the lung before things got to the stage where ventilators were needed: https://youtu.be/3dmIzW3icRs It was a brief reference without enough details to be sure that he was referring to clearance methods similar to our the same as what you reference, but it sounds as if this may be part of therapy already. So well in line with wh…
Thank you for that. I've watched it. It's nice to hear that the Italian doctors are concerned about the issue and trying to stave off use of ventilators. The interviewer suggested this is a different policy from what is happening in the UK/English-speaking world where they/we are basically begging for more ventilator capacity.
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It's too bad we can't put sick people in an airplane, put oxygen masks on them, shut the door, and pressurize the cabin. Like a hospital, but at the airport.
This is a really off the wall idea that might actually work. Can anybody get this idea some lift? Definitely a way for Boeing to get some desperately needed good PR.
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We've got all those 737s...
The ones that have already crashed, and are totally grounded because they propose a risk to the public? Not sure if this is supposed to be better. And who would fly all these people? Access to the cockpit is through the rest of the plane.
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We've got all those 737s...
The ones that have already crashed, and are totally grounded because they propose a risk to the public? Not sure if this is supposed to be better. And who would fly all these people? Access to the cockpit is through the rest of the plane.
Also, considering Boeing was anticipating FAA approval within weeks, it's fair to assume that the MCAS problem has been resolved. (https://www.reuters.com/article/us-boeing-737max/boeing-737-...)
If it were truly necessary, you could also set up an airtight septum to separate the contaminated part of the aircraft from the front part that includes the cockpit. There is an aft door (as well as emergency exits) that can be used to access the rear of the aircraft.
If you read enough news and Twitter, you will find some really heartbreaking descriptions of the folks on ventilators. For most, this is a Hail Mary attempt with only 50% survival rate. Many will have significant lung damage if they survive. We need more ventilators to be sure. But we desperately need to find ways to halt the progression of runaway lung inflammation that leads to needing a ventilator. Edit: this deve…
I was going to say the same, there seems to be thread after thread about ventilators, but are they a golden ticket to good health ?
I don't think anyone views them quite as starkly as that.
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We've got all those 737s...
The ones that have already crashed, and are totally grounded because they propose a risk to the public? Not sure if this is supposed to be better. And who would fly all these people? Access to the cockpit is through the rest of the plane.
It just has to fly handful times, from Boeing park lots to a depot in a desert and back from frontline after months/years. They are supposed to be clean before deployment, and can be cleaned by medical professionals before reflying. Or maybe cracks would develop and can't be manned after anyway, either way not much there is in terms of infection risks.