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TikTok told moderators to suppress posts by “ugly” people and the poor

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Re: TikTok told moderators to suppress posts by “ugly” people and the poor

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News flash: social media is garbage. What do you expect from these companies? It's just a private entity that makes its own rules about its own landfill of humanity. All of a sudden because anyone can make a post TikTok is obligated to preserve their rights? Not the case.

Not that this is a good thing. It's childish to be surprised and indignant about these companies' policies and behavior like they're your buddy or something.

Re: TikTok told moderators to suppress posts by “ugly” people and the poor

#62

How is this different from nightclubs having a high bar to entry? I am not saying this is an ethical thing to do, I am saying these apps are no different from nightclubs and they gotta do what they gotta do to survive. And no matter what you may say, humans prefer non ugly people over ugly people. I am sorry but this is simply how humans work. If you disagree, then you are a hypocrite. So should high end nightclubs b…

I think what a lot of nightclubs end up doing is definitely discriminatory and we should not tolerate that.

unattractive people are not a protected class

Re: TikTok told moderators to suppress posts by “ugly” people and the poor

#63

How is this different from nightclubs having a high bar to entry? I am not saying this is an ethical thing to do, I am saying these apps are no different from nightclubs and they gotta do what they gotta do to survive. And no matter what you may say, humans prefer non ugly people over ugly people. I am sorry but this is simply how humans work. If you disagree, then you are a hypocrite. So should high end nightclubs b…

I am sorry but this is simply how humans work. If you disagree, then you are a hypocrite. No, that's how you work.

It's how sexual selection works in general throughout the animal kingdom. You can teach yourself to behave otherwise, but you're hardwired to behave a certain way.

Humans exist within a fitness gradient and we naturally evaluate other humans according to how they fit within it.

I don't like it, but we're bloody animals.

Re: TikTok told moderators to suppress posts by “ugly” people and the poor

#64

How is this different from nightclubs having a high bar to entry? I am not saying this is an ethical thing to do, I am saying these apps are no different from nightclubs and they gotta do what they gotta do to survive. And no matter what you may say, humans prefer non ugly people over ugly people. I am sorry but this is simply how humans work. If you disagree, then you are a hypocrite. So should high end nightclubs b…

Because TikTok isn't a nightclub, it's a place for people to put their own content out on the Internet. Not just people, but primarily people living in a pathologically authoritarian state that doesn't allow them to access other places on the Internet that they could put their content on.

But even ignoring the authoritarian state angle, surely you'd think it'd be weird and counterproductive for user content from YouTube or Instagram or imgur to have similar policies? Those sites are also not nightclubs or modeling agencies or a Hooters franchise either.

FWIW it's totally shitty for nightclubs to be discriminatory in that way. I get why they do it, but it doesn't make it any less shitty of them, and it sure as hell doesn't let them off the hook for their shittiness in this regard.

Tangentially, this is one of infinitely many reasons that nearly all of humanity hates nightclubs, including the people that feel socially obligated to go to them, and including people still young enough to convince themselves that they must be having fun there because it sure looks like everyone else is, not realizing that everyone else is thinking the exact same thing.

Re: TikTok told moderators to suppress posts by “ugly” people and the poor

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post #49

A TikTok spokesperson said the goal was to prevent bullying on the platform, tying the document to a report from December that showed that the company was suppressing vulnerable users’ videos in a misguided effort to prevent them from becoming the centre of attention that could turn sour. Now that is some fine spin! Reminds of the Oscar Wilde sketch. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uycsfu4574w

I used TikTok for a while and saw plenty videos of actual bullying. The comments were never too happy about it, but there was clearly no effort to moderate it.

TikTok doesn’t care about bullying.

Re: TikTok told moderators to suppress posts by “ugly” people and the poor

#67

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As someone who does not frequent nightclubs, I don't really see the problem with a self-selecting group of people with standards? Some people don't want to see you, and that's their business.

I mean, why give them a free pass for asshole behaviour? You can shame them and leave them alone.

Who are they being assholes to? You don't have a right to invade people's private spaces. I don't have to invite you into my home.

Provided it's not a matter of a protected characteristic, the idea that you can push your way through the door by law is silly.

They go there to meet people who titilate them, and who don't remind them of how life can go wrong; that's their business in my view.

I know that I'm not attracted to ugly, unhealthy, or elderly people, and it's not wrong to feel that way, it is basically natural; and people who are themselves ugly, unhealthy, or elderly also feel these same things that you find ugly to acknowledge.

Re: TikTok told moderators to suppress posts by “ugly” people and the poor

#68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> So should high end nightclubs be publicly shamed for doing what they do (when what their "users" want is exactly non-ugly people) and driven out of business? Sure, why not?

Should MENSA be shutdown on the grounds of it's discriminatory membership model?

MENSA seems upfront about their requirements, and doesn't rely on tricking the masses to make them think they have a chance.

Re: TikTok told moderators to suppress posts by “ugly” people and the poor

#69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> So should high end nightclubs be publicly shamed for doing what they do (when what their "users" want is exactly non-ugly people) and driven out of business? Sure, why not?

Should MENSA be shutdown on the grounds of it's discriminatory membership model?

Nobody's talking about shutting anyone down. People can do shitty things even if they have a right to do them, and everyone else can think they're assholes. No contradictions. Same with free speech- people can say whatever they want, but if they say something that makes someone else think they're an asshole, the other person has a right to call them an asshole. Assholes are not criminals, they're just assholes and deserve to be treated as such.

Re: TikTok told moderators to suppress posts by “ugly” people and the poor

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post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think what a lot of nightclubs end up doing is definitely discriminatory and we should not tolerate that.

unattractive people are not a protected class

And 100 years ago race, sex, and sexual orientation weren't protected classes. Society makes progress, slowly.
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