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Re: Please re-add original author to docs and license

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Post by asveikau »

chrisseaton wrote: post #27
gfalcao wrote: post #21

Hello, I'm Gabriel, the original author of Guake. Let me clarify the whole story: In 2006 I had just gotten into college and was learning Python by myself, my English skills (also self-taught) were pretty low and I had to rely a lot on whatever material was available in Portuguese (I'm from Brazil). In 2007 I had an amazing college teacher, the "drop of water in the desert" kind of teacher. He was trying to convince…

> I'd have to install libqt on my Debian? No way! Why are you so firmly opposed to libqt?

The issue I might still have today in 2020 is disk space, and extra time downloading updates to those packages at the next update. Even today I'd be reluctant to want to pull in large libraries that amount to an entire UI or desktop framework just for one application, unless I have a really good justification to use that application.

I am also a tad displeased today at how many optional dependencies I don't use get pulled in by package managers on my systems.

Re: Please re-add original author to docs and license

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Post by scarejunba »

chrisseaton wrote: post #27
gfalcao wrote: post #21

Hello, I'm Gabriel, the original author of Guake. Let me clarify the whole story: In 2006 I had just gotten into college and was learning Python by myself, my English skills (also self-taught) were pretty low and I had to rely a lot on whatever material was available in Portuguese (I'm from Brazil). In 2007 I had an amazing college teacher, the "drop of water in the desert" kind of teacher. He was trying to convince…

> I'd have to install libqt on my Debian? No way! Why are you so firmly opposed to libqt?

At the time it was a big deal, you went all GTK or all KDE/QT and your desktop looked ugly if you didn't. Also everyone was obsessed with 'bloat' and KDE had that rep.

Re: Please re-add original author to docs and license

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Post by scarejunba »

sequoia wrote: post #47

This seems like a non-story. Original author says "please add my name back," current maintainers say "OK will do." What am I missing?

Well, I got that little piece of history from the Gabriel Falcao about how it was all formed which is really neat so that makes it worthwhile.

I think we usually expect these to be someone's cry for help but here it's just an interesting tale. I liked it.

EDIT: Responding here due to rate-limit, I think you're right (on reflection) and I don't like what that means.

Re: Please re-add original author to docs and license

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Post by felipelemos »

zingermc wrote: post #25
gfalcao wrote: post #21

Hello, I'm Gabriel, the original author of Guake. Let me clarify the whole story: In 2006 I had just gotten into college and was learning Python by myself, my English skills (also self-taught) were pretty low and I had to rely a lot on whatever material was available in Portuguese (I'm from Brazil). In 2007 I had an amazing college teacher, the "drop of water in the desert" kind of teacher. He was trying to convince…

If you still have the SVN repo, there should be a way to actually import all the commits to a Git repo (git-svn). Then, you could rebase the entire master branch of the current GitHub repo. That might show more of your contributions if many of them are hidden by the "guake_root" commit.

The SVN repository still exist with all its commits. Here it is the first SVN revision: https://sourceforge.net/p/guake-gnome-vte/code/1/

Re: Please re-add original author to docs and license

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Post by throwaway55554 »

gfalcao wrote: post #21

Hello, I'm Gabriel, the original author of Guake. Let me clarify the whole story: In 2006 I had just gotten into college and was learning Python by myself, my English skills (also self-taught) were pretty low and I had to rely a lot on whatever material was available in Portuguese (I'm from Brazil). In 2007 I had an amazing college teacher, the "drop of water in the desert" kind of teacher. He was trying to convince…

> Except for one thing: Lincoln rewrote a lot of things that were working, just for the sake of cleaning up the Python code the aesthetics of it (actually he was applying PEP8 which I had no idea what was before this)

People shouldn't do this. At least not without prior agreement from the original author.

Re: Please re-add original author to docs and license

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Post by sequoia »

scarejunba wrote: post #63
sequoia wrote: post #47

This seems like a non-story. Original author says "please add my name back," current maintainers say "OK will do." What am I missing?

Well, I got that little piece of history from the Gabriel Falcao about how it was all formed which is really neat so that makes it worthwhile. I think we usually expect these to be someone's cry for help but here it's just an interesting tale. I liked it. EDIT: Responding here due to rate-limit, I think you're right (on reflection) and I don't like what that means.

Agreed; it was quite interesting. I only posted my above comment because calling this thread to the attention of hackernews seemed a bit like trying to stir up controversy.

Re: Please re-add original author to docs and license

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Post by MichaelDickens »

sequoia wrote: post #47

This seems like a non-story. Original author says "please add my name back," current maintainers say "OK will do." What am I missing?

For what it's worth, the author was not reinstated until after this had already been posted to Hacker News.

Re: Please re-add original author to docs and license

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Post by rdc12 »

bigiain wrote: post #15

Interestingly (to me at least), I was just reading he memcached website (from another HN submission), and even though it's been completely rewritten in a different language, they still credit Brad Fitzpatrick as the original author. No reason not to. Anyone arguing otherwise is being petty and mean in my opinion. Sure, a bunch of new people have written some/most/all of the current codebase. But they built on top of…

Brad Fitzpatrick is a pretty high profile programmer, would be extra crazy to remove his name.

Re: Please re-add original author to docs and license

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Post by VBprogrammer »

zingermc wrote: post #25
gfalcao wrote: post #21

Hello, I'm Gabriel, the original author of Guake. Let me clarify the whole story: In 2006 I had just gotten into college and was learning Python by myself, my English skills (also self-taught) were pretty low and I had to rely a lot on whatever material was available in Portuguese (I'm from Brazil). In 2007 I had an amazing college teacher, the "drop of water in the desert" kind of teacher. He was trying to convince…

If you still have the SVN repo, there should be a way to actually import all the commits to a Git repo (git-svn). Then, you could rebase the entire master branch of the current GitHub repo. That might show more of your contributions if many of them are hidden by the "guake_root" commit.

I only have a working knowledge of git but wouldn't that be equivalent to re-writing the whole history of the repo? Rebasing would give all of the commits a new commit ID and would cause conflicts everywhere.

Unless of course you just meant as an interesting way of being able to see the full history rather than suggesting the project adopt it.

Re: Please re-add original author to docs and license

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Post by simcop2387 »

VBprogrammer wrote: post #69
zingermc wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you still have the SVN repo, there should be a way to actually import all the commits to a Git repo (git-svn). Then, you could rebase the entire master branch of the current GitHub repo. That might show more of your contributions if many of them are hidden by the "guake_root" commit.

I only have a working knowledge of git but wouldn't that be equivalent to re-writing the whole history of the repo? Rebasing would give all of the commits a new commit ID and would cause conflicts everywhere. Unless of course you just meant as an interesting way of being able to see the full history rather than suggesting the project adopt it.

Git has the ability to use grafts for this scenario. https://stackoverflow.com/questions/1220557/how-do-i-prepend...
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