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Re: My Covid-19 Story in Brooklyn

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Post by whatshisface » Sat, Feb 29, 2020, 5:34 PM UTC

tyfon wrote: post #43

endorphone wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This seems like an invented rationalization given that the average person touches their face up to 3000 times a day already ( up to . It is trivial to find details of this range). If you adjust a mask a few times, but in return it stops you from touching your nose/mouth constantly, that's an enormous win. And just to clarify, again people are talking about surgical masks. N95 masks, which are still "cheap paper masks…

It is what I read by an associate in microbiology and infection control [1]. I tend to listen to experts but maybe he's wrong about the field he is studying, I'm not an expert :) Translated from Norwegian: - Does a facemask help against spreading virii? - No, not when you are using it out among people. The point is that you will scratch your face and get your fingers in contact with your soft tissue. So it is counter…

>The point is that you will scratch your face and get your fingers in contact with your soft tissue.

So they're saying that... masks will help if you don't touch your face? Makes sense to me, the PPE that the CDC recommends involve a face shield in addition to a mask.

Re: My Covid-19 Story in Brooklyn

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Post by dghughes » Sat, Feb 29, 2020, 5:35 PM UTC

76543210 wrote: post #15

So is there a way to prepare our bodies for getting sick? Me and my wife and our 8 month old live 40 hours a week in public, so it's going to happen. We already eat healthy, me and the wife workout. But the kid? Not sure how to prepare him.

I'd say you're doing the only thing a person can.

You see many people speak of "boosting your immune system" but it's pure quackery. A person's immune system is many layers and types, a system, it's not a single thing that can be adjusted at will.

The way I see my immune system is a 100 liter tank of water. You can't overfill it but it can be low. At most it can only be 100 liters. Your immune system can only be as good as normal there's no turbo button to over-boost it.

Re: My Covid-19 Story in Brooklyn

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Post by Rastonbury » Sat, Feb 29, 2020, 5:37 PM UTC

petercooper wrote: post #29

endorphone wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Masks are considered useless unless you are infected. This is a bizarre claim that can be countered against the reality that every front-line worker is equipped with a mask. EDIT: Almost immediately I dropped to -2. Bizarre. Again, every health agency the world over equips health workers who deal with potential COVID-19 with N95+ masks. For some reason people desperately want to clutch onto the notion that it's usele…

I personally believe that any sort of cover or mask is likely to have an effect even if not 100%. However..: This is a bizarre claim that can be countered against the reality that every front-line worker is equipped with a mask. This is not necessarily to protect the front-line workers. Since the incubation period is so long, it makes sense for front-line workers to wear masks to prevent them infecting other people e…

Agreed. Even before Covid it was standard for healthcare workers to wear masks. They constantly work with patients with compromised immune systems and the like. They could be be asymptomatic and wouldn't risk passing it to someone weaker

Re: My Covid-19 Story in Brooklyn

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Post by Medicalidiot » Sat, Feb 29, 2020, 5:39 PM UTC

soared wrote: post #36

> This is a tough one. I'm an attending physician. > Guidelines are there for a reason. As much as I despise our Commander in Chief, I don't think the CDC is compromised. Fear doesn't rank over guidelines, but I understand the situation. No one wants to be the doctor that discharges patient zero. > Personally, I'd admit you for fever of unknown origin for the time being and monitor you for any signs of sepsis. If eve…

I keep hearing rumblings about test kits not being where they need to be, but nothing in the news. It would be so hard to make a clinical diagnosis of COVID-19 when the chief complaints are "Fever, cough, shortness of breath". Is that the common cold or is this SARS-CoV-2? Giving a massive diagnosis like and being wrong is bad.

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Post by sp332 » Sat, Feb 29, 2020, 5:40 PM UTC

heartbeats wrote: post #53

eveningcoffee wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I just saw a virologist give out the flu argument in addition to presenting the naive mortality rate and making an intentional arithmetic mistake (100-3.5=97, perhaps 96.5 does not feel such a big number anymore). I would recommend to study this site https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/ if you want to be more informed.

Rounding up .5 is considered proper form.

I agree. If you only have two significant digits to work with, pretending to have more precision is a different kind of dishonesty.

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Post by AznHisoka » Sat, Feb 29, 2020, 5:40 PM UTC

ropiwqefjnpoa wrote: post #41

It's going to spread here, I'd rather have it and get immunity sooner than later when it's full swing and treatment might be limited.

Easier said than done :)

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Post by ssutch3 » Sat, Feb 29, 2020, 5:41 PM UTC

Doctors give out the "unknown virus" diagnosis literally all the time. It's extremely common.

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Post by bitxbit » Sat, Feb 29, 2020, 5:41 PM UTC

sschueller wrote: post #8

The Swiss government issued the following guidelines [1] to prevent further spread of the virus. Masks are considered useless unless you are infected. - Wash your hands thoroughly. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jvcvvRp3lsY - Cough and sneeze into a paper tissue/handerchief or the crook of your arm. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M3_rFPtQgKE - If you experience shortness of breath, have a cough or fever: • Stay at…

Just because masks are not 100% effective doesn’t mean they’re not effective at all. The Surgeon General also dismissed masks and is spreading misinformation.

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Post by tyfon » Sat, Feb 29, 2020, 5:41 PM UTC

endorphone wrote: post #60

tyfon wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It is what I read by an associate in microbiology and infection control [1]. I tend to listen to experts but maybe he's wrong about the field he is studying, I'm not an expert :) Translated from Norwegian: - Does a facemask help against spreading virii? - No, not when you are using it out among people. The point is that you will scratch your face and get your fingers in contact with your soft tissue. So it is counter…

But we already touch our face endlessly. Again, this sounds like he invented this on the spot. This wasn't studied, isn't the result of an analysis, it's just a lazy response. Further, again he was talking about surgical masks. Surgical masks don't work. Surgical masks are a subset of masks, and it is grossly inaccurate to extrapolate that out to "masks don't work".

I never claimed all masks don't work, I was talking about cheap paper masks. It might not have been clear enough in the original comment.

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Post by partiallypro » Sat, Feb 29, 2020, 5:41 PM UTC

soared wrote: post #36

> This is a tough one. I'm an attending physician. > Guidelines are there for a reason. As much as I despise our Commander in Chief, I don't think the CDC is compromised. Fear doesn't rank over guidelines, but I understand the situation. No one wants to be the doctor that discharges patient zero. > Personally, I'd admit you for fever of unknown origin for the time being and monitor you for any signs of sepsis. If eve…

Apparently some kits were recalled because they were flawed and there is a shortage as a result. So it is somewhat understandable that the CDC doesn't want to test just anyone with flu like symptoms.