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Re: GitHub was down

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Post by oefrha »

giancarlostoro wrote: post #7
kevinmannix wrote: post #3

This seems to be the third or so day in the past week I've had issues with GitHub around this time in the morning. They've typically been really good. I'm a bit surprised there hasn't been more talk about it on HN.

They seem to be doing heavy work on it. Now on Mobile you can't see repos in "Desktop Mode" which is unfortunate. I have to tell my browser to pretend to be in desktop mode. Plus the regex post from the other day seems to imply they are working on new things when somebody from GH replied in said thread. I don't mind improvements, but don't break production guys...

> Now on Mobile you can't see repos in "Desktop Mode" which is unfortunate.

Wait, what? On iOS Safari I can only see repos in desktop mode now (except the issue tracker which is responsive anyway). Which is a good thing. Not sure why you have the exact opposite experience?

(I do vaguely recall being asked if I would prefer desktop mode on my phone a while back, and I said yes.)

Re: GitHub was down

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Post by [deleted] »

amelius wrote: post #60
savrajsingh wrote: post #8

No matter how many talented engineers you have on staff, your entire service can still go down. Let's pause and reflect on that. ;)

The interesting thing is that Git is entirely non-centralized, so in theory they could simply redirect to servers onto which the data has been mirrored.

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Re: GitHub was down

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Post by stickfigure »

anonsivalley652 wrote: post #39
erikbye wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

IME GitHub has not had increased downtime after Microsoft's acquisition.

Well, some other people in the comments disagree. And it hasn't happened yet, but it's the way they don't manage / integrate acquisitions very well unless they're wowie complementary products like Visio. Danger dropped off a cliff and Softricity was absolutely amazing but shelved, so friends of mine basically repeated the theme for VMware View and were acquihired by VMware. Time will tell where GH goes.

Early Danger adopter here. The hiptop was great for its time but with the advent of the iPhone, it was obsolete. That was before the MS acquisition. Rubin (and presumably much of his team) had long prior left for Android.

Danger was already in freefall by the time of the acquisition. You can't blame Microsoft for that.

Re: GitHub was down

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Post by endorphone »

bbrree66 wrote: post #56
anonsivalley652 wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well, some other people in the comments disagree. And it hasn't happened yet, but it's the way they don't manage / integrate acquisitions very well unless they're wowie complementary products like Visio. Danger dropped off a cliff and Softricity was absolutely amazing but shelved, so friends of mine basically repeated the theme for VMware View and were acquihired by VMware. Time will tell where GH goes.

There are so many logical flaws here. People's comments are meaningless, you can look at historical GitHub up-time and see that it hasn't changed meaningfully. "And it hasn't happened yet" Ah yes, now you have to backtrack from: it happened! to... no wait I promise it will happen! Based on... what? The fact that some acquisitions don't go well? This is all pure speculation with no substantiation. I recommend learning…

To be fair, they didn't say that was the cause of the current outage. They made a general observation that Microsoft-acquired companies degrade, which seems like a fairly reasonable observation: The goal of being the best Git service/repo falls by the wayside as other corporate goals push in.

Re: GitHub was down

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Post by kempbellt »

askl56 wrote: post #30
izolate wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Wow. The apparent level of conceit with which you ended your message is astounding. Do you think they intend to break production? You don’t mind? There are real people behind this who are hard at work delivering us a great product, we should cut them some slack. I apologize if you meant it differently but it came off a little off-putting.

Intentions are meaningless. If you're providing a service, (especially charging money for said service), you can't break it because "you're hard at work".

>you can't break it because "you're hard at work"

Apparently you can...because it is broken.

A few days of degraded service is frustrating, but their up-time has bought them a lot of credit in my book - especially considering what they do.

This is the real world. No service is magically infallible.

Re: GitHub was down

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Post by cle »

waynenilsen wrote: post #51

Don't forget to check your SLAs Enterprise = 99.95% (quarterly) https://help.github.com/en/github/site-policy/github-enterpr... They're having a bad February but January was good. We will see what March has in store

> How do we calculate Uptime?

> Our Uptime calculation is based on the percentage of successful requests we serve through our web, API, and Git client interfaces.

Just curious, how do they measure this? What is the actual calculation?

Re: GitHub was down

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Post by shp0ngle »

anonsivalley652 wrote: post #35

When Microsoft buys companies, they tend to progressively decay as the original architects leave, the morale of remaining employees grinds down from the stress and they bring in cheaper contractors to duct tape the bits together and plug the holes in levee with their fingers. I've BTDTBTTS. cough LinkExchange, WebTV, Hotmail, Skype, Softricity, Nokia, LinkedIn, Danger/Sidekick cough GH maybe next. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Skype was bad before Microsoft when it was still part of eBay and stayed terrible after Microsoft. LinkedIn was legendary in dark patterns usage way before Microsoft.

Nokia... I don’t know about that one. Change to smartphones hit every “old” phone brand... Ericsson did not survive, Siemens did not survive, Alcatel is just a brand now, even Sony has a hard time... Nokia would probably die no matter what. All the Maemo/linux based OSes (that kept changing names all the time) were nice, but so was Palm’s WebOS...

Re: GitHub was down

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Post by kempbellt »

djsumdog wrote: post #31
dirtydroog wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Still miles better than BitBucket.

When was the last time BitBucket had an outage? Personally I don't see a lot of difference between the two platforms; or GitLab (my primary now). Github probably has the best UI, but Gitlab's has gotten a lot better; and there are always self hosted solutions like Gogs.

How much data does BitBucket have to process on a daily basis compared to GitHub, or GitLab?

I imagine that there are stability issues that any provider will have to deal with as they scale to account for the masses.

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