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Paper Clay Air Humidifier

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Re: Paper Clay Air Humidifier

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Yes, that's the minerals in the water. Using distilled water prevents this.

I discovered this when doing a post-assembly indoor test of a Luftdaten air quality sensor I built[0]. I kept it running for few hours and then looked at the data, and saw some ridiculously high levels of PM2.5 and PM5 in the evening. I've decided to investigate it. Over the next two days, I figured out that the increased levels happen at times when our air humidifier is running, which led me to discover that those u…

We also have a air purifier that watches for particulate and they would battle each other constantly lol.

Moved to an evaporative humidifier, my air quality appliances now operate in peace.

Re: Paper Clay Air Humidifier

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This is an art project and nothing more. Humidifying only 600 square feet, the size of a studio apartment, takes about 5 gallons of water per day in winter. [1] The reservoir on this object looks to be no more than two gallons, and I would be truly shocked if it requires even daily refilling. If it actually moved enough water to make a difference, it would be a fundamentally flawed design in requiring multiple comple…

60m² is very large for a studio appartment.

Based on your numbers, 1 gallon would be enough for a 10m² bedroom.

Re: Paper Clay Air Humidifier

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Here’s an idea I had for a humidifier. It simply tumbles thousands of tiny beads through tumbler with water at the bottom. Since the sheer number of small beads creates a huge surface area you’d get a bunch of evaporation. Cool right? Feel free to use this idea as prior art.

Yes but energy intensive.

Couldn’t be worse than the ones that heat up water to make steam.

Re: Paper Clay Air Humidifier

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Be really careful with humidifiers. I cranked mine up too much and it caused a mold issue in my home, and mold in my home caused me health issues.

The rule of thumb is that if your humidifier is causing condensation on your windows, then you have condensation inside your walls as well, which is the necessary precursor for mold. We have this whole house humidifier installed in our furnace: https://www.aprilaire.com/whole-house-products/humidifier/mo... It has a remote temperature sensor you install outside, then it automatically adjusts the humidity based on the…

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Re: Paper Clay Air Humidifier

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I've encountered the same issue (high plastic bottle waste along with high cost). Short of boiling your own water outdoors to avoid polluting the indoor air, it's challenging to find a source for bulk distilled water.

Rain is essentially distilled water (evaporation from terrestrial water bodies and then condensation in the atmosphere). It picks up some contaminants in the atmosphere and some dissolved gases when it condenses but it's going to be mostly free of minerals (i.e. not be hard). So collecting rain water is one source of bulk 'distilled water'.

Depending on where he lives, that might actually be illegal to do.[1]

[1] https://bestlifeonline.com/illegal-collect-rainwater/

Re: Paper Clay Air Humidifier

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I have a rather small Honeywell cool mist that works well. I use it in our bedrooms and have taken the humidity up 20% easily. This is in the mountains where it's drier than the desert in the winter.

They ‘cheat’ a little by lofting liquid water which then evaporates. We have a water softener and the cool mist humidifier left a smoke-like particulate floating in the air (i think it was either salt from the softener or minerals from the water)

Oooooh, so that is the cause of my apartment being hazy?! Just moved to a new place, air humidity can get around 10% and since I don't enjoy being tazed by my sofa I bought a small humidifier from Amazon, both I and my wife noticed what seems to be a cloud in our living room.

Re: Paper Clay Air Humidifier

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They ‘cheat’ a little by lofting liquid water which then evaporates. We have a water softener and the cool mist humidifier left a smoke-like particulate floating in the air (i think it was either salt from the softener or minerals from the water)

Oooooh, so that is the cause of my apartment being hazy?! Just moved to a new place, air humidity can get around 10% and since I don't enjoy being tazed by my sofa I bought a small humidifier from Amazon, both I and my wife noticed what seems to be a cloud in our living room.

If it's a cool-mist type humidifier, definitely.

I grabbed an evaporative one from the local big box hardware store and zero 'smoke'. You should get some bacteriostat and you'll have to replace the paper elements every now and again, but it's way better.

Re: Paper Clay Air Humidifier

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When I finally got a hygrometer I was amazed at how useless the powered one gallon air humidifiers are. They often can’t raise the humidity percent a single point with the hygrometer right by it in my rooms. If you want to really humidify a room it takes a big industrial sized unit. They had them in the rooms in our Colorado Airbnb cabin and they were totally necessary in the dry mountain air if you didn’t want to wa…

When I was a kid in the eighties we had these huge “console” humidifiers that held maybe 15 gallons and had a rotating belt and a big fan. Seems like they stopped making these in the nineties in favor of the useless tiny things.

My grandpa used to have the exact same thing.

You can still buy smaller versions of, they are called 'evaporative humidifiers' and use a paper element with a fan. They are slower to adjust humidity but leave zero haze.

Re: Paper Clay Air Humidifier

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Would filtering it first help with that?

Yes, my humidifier actually has filters you can buy, but it's a bit cost prohibitive (around $20/filter and with the hardness of the water they only last about 3 weeks).

I just use filtered water from my fridge or from my Brita. Haven't noticed any nasty build up in the humidifier or any hazy production. The larger Honeywell I use in the master bedroom is the top fill which is designed as filter free.
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