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Re: Trump administration backs Oracle in Google fight

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Post by murph-almighty »

todd3834 wrote: post #8
vikingcaffiene wrote: post #2

IMO there's two ways to read this: either A) this is a baldly transparent attempt to "own the libs" and punish a company that the administration sees as a threat or B) they are too incompetent to understand the technical nuances of the case and are essentially morons. Maybe both? This administration can't be thrown out on their collective asses fast enough...

> At an earlier stage in litigation, the Obama administration took a similar position, urging the Supreme Court not to accept Google's appeal. Am I understanding this correctly that this has been a bipartisan position?

At face value, maybe. But it's worth noting that this administration tried to stop the AT&T-Time Warner merger while suggesting that it would go through if Time Warner divested itself of CNN. I supported the action, but not the reasons why- it was a legislative hurdle that aimed to take out a source of journalism that was critical of the administration.

That in turn has colored my opinion of any antitrust action this administration takes, and I wouldn't be shocked if this action had some sort of corrupted subtext as well. I wouldn't trust this administration to perform antitrust actions for the sake of antitrust actions, but rather for some sort of ancillary benefits.

Re: Trump administration backs Oracle in Google fight

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Post by voxl »

ur-whale wrote: post #50

20 years of supporting the dems financially and otherwise ... what goes around comes around.

What does this even mean? That you should be wary that your country will eventually go insane and elect a proto-fascist?

Who in there right mind would do business that way?

Re: Trump administration backs Oracle in Google fight

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Post by Pigo »

vikingcaffiene wrote: post #2

IMO there's two ways to read this: either A) this is a baldly transparent attempt to "own the libs" and punish a company that the administration sees as a threat or B) they are too incompetent to understand the technical nuances of the case and are essentially morons. Maybe both? This administration can't be thrown out on their collective asses fast enough...

I know Trump is a politician, but he seems to focus on the culture war and Twitter, not high level corporate battles the masses rarely pay attention to.

Re: Trump administration backs Oracle in Google fight

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Post by CalChris »

entee wrote: post #23
todd3834 wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> At an earlier stage in litigation, the Obama administration took a similar position, urging the Supreme Court not to accept Google's appeal. Am I understanding this correctly that this has been a bipartisan position?

Ellison hosted a big fundraiser for Trump literally yesterday and Obama regularly golfed with Ellison. I’m not usually a conspiracy theorist but it’s clear the guy is connected and it stands to reason it might influence the government position. https://www.desertsun.com/story/news/politics/2020/02/12/tru... https://www.desertsun.com/story/news/politics/2020/02/18/bar... Edit: some suggest Ellison doesn’t play golf, t…

Larry Ellison doesn't play golf. He does own golf courses though. He is a fine athlete but golf is not one of his sports.

Re: Trump administration backs Oracle in Google fight

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Post by ajross »

gadders wrote: post #47
ajross wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

He did not. Ellison has been a reliable (though not particularly partisan) republican for years.

Well, that kind of casts doubt on the whole "Trump is doing this for contributions" if Obama was on the same side of the issue then.

The Holder DoJ never weighed in on this case at all, to my knowledge. This is a civil suit.

Re: Trump administration backs Oracle in Google fight

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Post by dragonwriter »

Pigo wrote: post #63
vikingcaffiene wrote: post #2

IMO there's two ways to read this: either A) this is a baldly transparent attempt to "own the libs" and punish a company that the administration sees as a threat or B) they are too incompetent to understand the technical nuances of the case and are essentially morons. Maybe both? This administration can't be thrown out on their collective asses fast enough...

I know Trump is a politician, but he seems to focus on the culture war and Twitter, not high level corporate battles the masses rarely pay attention to.

Yes, Trump distracts with those things while his administration does the consequential stuff. Whether that's a deliberate strategy or just a personally corrupt buffoon who has put the worst of the worst in subordinate position with no meaningful central strategy except for impulsive reshuffles and dismissals is...ultimately unimportant to the end result.

Re: Trump administration backs Oracle in Google fight

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Post by zeruch »

vikingcaffiene wrote: post #2

IMO there's two ways to read this: either A) this is a baldly transparent attempt to "own the libs" and punish a company that the administration sees as a threat or B) they are too incompetent to understand the technical nuances of the case and are essentially morons. Maybe both? This administration can't be thrown out on their collective asses fast enough...

It's both. Ellison is fundraising for Trump (ironic how an actual billionaire is helping subsidize a fake one to re-election), and Trump is technologically an imbecile who doesn't use email and uses Twitter...poorly.

Re: Trump administration backs Oracle in Google fight

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Post by gadders »

ajross wrote: post #66
gadders wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well, that kind of casts doubt on the whole "Trump is doing this for contributions" if Obama was on the same side of the issue then.

The Holder DoJ never weighed in on this case at all, to my knowledge. This is a civil suit.

I'm going by what the article said.

Re: Trump administration backs Oracle in Google fight

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Post by djannzjkzxn »

quotemstr wrote: post #39

Is there any doubt that this is some kind of score-settling? Republicans hate Google. I don't think people inside the SV bubble appreciate just how intense this hatred has become. You know the seething, implacable anger, that bile that comes up out of your stomach when you think of a politician you don't like? A lot of republicans feel that way about Google. This hatred doesn't come out of nowhere. Google's leaders c…

I’m really skeptical that Republicans know or care about politics in Google’s work culture. I think the only big story to come out about it, the James Damore one, mainly got discussed from a gender angle and most Republican politicians would prefer if that conversation didn’t happen at all.
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