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Re: NPM: 429 Too Many Requests

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Post by allendoerfer »

lm28469 wrote: post #10
gmemstr wrote: post #6

This seems to be slowly clearing up. Regardless, can we talk about the conduct in this GitHub thread? I know every community is different but is it common to have memes and jokes posted this quickly and often in a GitHub issue? It makes it really hard to follow and discourages genuinely useful discussion of workarounds or progress.

Some people getting in the workforce in the last few years have troubles making the distinction between work and play contexts. It's extremely visible on github, slack, &c. which are more and more looking like discord / reddit (gifs, memes, random jokes in the middle of serious discussions)

Like everything else, Eternal September also got reimplemented in JavaScript.

Re: NPM: 429 Too Many Requests

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Post by vhakulinen »

ccmcarey wrote: post #33
gmemstr wrote: post #6

This seems to be slowly clearing up. Regardless, can we talk about the conduct in this GitHub thread? I know every community is different but is it common to have memes and jokes posted this quickly and often in a GitHub issue? It makes it really hard to follow and discourages genuinely useful discussion of workarounds or progress.

It's disappointing. I commented saying as such - https://github.com/npm/cli/issues/836#issuecomment-586990343 > Posting memes/jokes in an issue wastes the time of people who actually need to be able to read through the issue. > Stop it. Use emoji reacts if you feel the need. In two minutes I have 24 dislikes and 13 likes. I think the introduction of emoji reactions was a bad idea, it gamifies the issues system.

> I think the introduction of emoji reactions was a bad idea, it gamifies the issues system.

It depends on the community. I've seen many where the reactions are genuine and actually serves a purpose. From what I've seen, its almost always a popular js/node project that attracts this kind if behaviour like seen in this thread (based on my own observations).

Last example is vscode's santa hat[1]. It seems that that thread is mostly empty now but I remember there was huge meme thread going on in that issue or in reddit/hn when that thing was happening.

1: https://github.com/microsoft/vscode/issues/87268

Re: NPM: 429 Too Many Requests

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Post by aosaigh »

ccmcarey wrote: post #33
gmemstr wrote: post #6

This seems to be slowly clearing up. Regardless, can we talk about the conduct in this GitHub thread? I know every community is different but is it common to have memes and jokes posted this quickly and often in a GitHub issue? It makes it really hard to follow and discourages genuinely useful discussion of workarounds or progress.

It's disappointing. I commented saying as such - https://github.com/npm/cli/issues/836#issuecomment-586990343 > Posting memes/jokes in an issue wastes the time of people who actually need to be able to read through the issue. > Stop it. Use emoji reacts if you feel the need. In two minutes I have 24 dislikes and 13 likes. I think the introduction of emoji reactions was a bad idea, it gamifies the issues system.

I actually noticed your comments as a voice of reason and upvoted. I have a feeling that the issue in question was probably linked from some Discord/Slack/subreddit and everyone just jumped on the bandwagon.

Re: NPM: 429 Too Many Requests

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Post by twsted »

MattRix wrote: post #36
lm28469 wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Some people getting in the workforce in the last few years have troubles making the distinction between work and play contexts. It's extremely visible on github, slack, &c. which are more and more looking like discord / reddit (gifs, memes, random jokes in the middle of serious discussions)

This is the first time I've seen "&c" used instead of "etc", I had to look it up. Interesting abbreviation!

I think he means "& Co.", "and company".

Re: NPM: 429 Too Many Requests

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Post by jeltz »

swalsh wrote: post #41
gmemstr wrote: post #6

This seems to be slowly clearing up. Regardless, can we talk about the conduct in this GitHub thread? I know every community is different but is it common to have memes and jokes posted this quickly and often in a GitHub issue? It makes it really hard to follow and discourages genuinely useful discussion of workarounds or progress.

Most companies try to stay professional, and many people carry that behavior into github. However I have worked at a major tech company that trended closer to "millenial" in age. There memes were an everyday part of the corporate culture. Professional emails quite often would have a meme included. I can see someone coming from a corporate culture like that thinking it would be perfectly normal to carry this behavior…

I do not get this. My first job was at a company which had very unprofessional communication internally (for good and bad) but we always made a clear distinction between internal and external communication. There is a time and place for everything.

Re: NPM: 429 Too Many Requests

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Post by dividedbyzero »

colonwqbang wrote: post #37

Is it common to rely on a free service like npm for your company's core business? It seems like you would be taking a huge risk by not mirroring anything you need internally.

I believe (based on lots of anecdata) that it's not just common, it's absolutely overwhelmingly often the case at companies of pretty much every size, be it a data scientist using stuff from CRAN for mission-critical modelling or an OS package repo or the like. It appears that few shops have this fully under control.

Re: NPM: 429 Too Many Requests

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Post by Sharlin »

avereveard wrote: post #26
lm28469 wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Some people getting in the workforce in the last few years have troubles making the distinction between work and play contexts. It's extremely visible on github, slack, &c. which are more and more looking like discord / reddit (gifs, memes, random jokes in the middle of serious discussions)

there's also quite some personal contributors in github, for these it's not a work context to begin with

Indeed, Github intrinsically caters for both hobbyist coders (some of whom may be quite young) and professional devs. Some degree of culture shock is inevitable.

Re: NPM: 429 Too Many Requests

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Post by crmrc114 »

swalsh wrote: post #41
gmemstr wrote: post #6

This seems to be slowly clearing up. Regardless, can we talk about the conduct in this GitHub thread? I know every community is different but is it common to have memes and jokes posted this quickly and often in a GitHub issue? It makes it really hard to follow and discourages genuinely useful discussion of workarounds or progress.

Most companies try to stay professional, and many people carry that behavior into github. However I have worked at a major tech company that trended closer to "millenial" in age. There memes were an everyday part of the corporate culture. Professional emails quite often would have a meme included. I can see someone coming from a corporate culture like that thinking it would be perfectly normal to carry this behavior…

I was at Amazon and meme wars were common. I get that it may seem absurd but when done at the right time, humor can help people defuse a tense situation.

I am honestly surprised about the number of very upset people in this thread and the trashing of millennials. Yeah the ass of every workplace generational joke- most millennials have kids going to college now.

If you think millennials like memes Wait until you work with some zoomers. A lot of people screaming get off my lawn right now.

Re: NPM: 429 Too Many Requests

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Post by dkersten »

colonwqbang wrote: post #37

Is it common to rely on a free service like npm for your company's core business? It seems like you would be taking a huge risk by not mirroring anything you need internally.

Yeah, you should definitely keep a mirror of packages your company is using rather than pulling from some external source.

Re: NPM: 429 Too Many Requests

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Post by KaoruAoiShiho »

warpech wrote: post #9

If this happens in future, you can switch an NPM mirror, such as: - https://open-registry.dev/#get-started - https://npm.taobao.org/ WARNING: Research who runs the mirror before putting your trust in it. How to turn on: npm config set registry https://npm.open-registry.dev How to turn off: npm config delete registry

Thanks for the suggestion, this is really valuable for those who trust Chinese products or are Chinese.
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