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Re: "This community is available in the app"

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Post by manigandham »

_-___________-_ wrote: post #33
manigandham wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Better control over ads and data. Technically also better for users since it's faster and more reliable than a website but being forced into it sucks.

"better for users" if you ignore all of the other aspects than speed and reliability. Users have far less control over third-party tracking in an app than they do in a web browser.

Reddit is all pseudonymous anyway and doesn't have much data in the first place (which is why they have low ad prices). It's mostly defending against adblocking which most people are fine with in exchange for a fast app that persists logins and has push notifications.

Re: "This community is available in the app"

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Post by deanclatworthy »

fireattack wrote: post #9
holler wrote: post #4

Whenever Reddit, or any other website, tells me to install their app, I make sure that I never install their app. In fact other than maybe 5 or less apps, I only use a browser.

Reddit is one of a few websites that I feel dedicated app works much better than browser, but I use 3rd party one(s).

I also use a third party app. AlienBlue is superb and more feature rich and user friendly than the official app. Let’s enjoy it while it lasts. I suspect one day the API will be monetised (forced to display ads inline in the feed) or paid for (pricing out third parties) or entirely removed.

Re: "This community is available in the app"

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Post by themagician »

catalogia wrote: post #47
themagician wrote: post #42

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Facebook gave up on its original userbase long ago when it found out there was a near endless supply of older boomers that can barely use a computer and would would click on everything and anything. Facebook is designed for, and in fact is designed to prey on, the computer illiterate.

> would click on everything and anything. Particularly ads. I don't think it's necessarily computer illiteracy specifically to blame here, though it's certainly a factor. The elderly are also targeted by telephone scammers, presumably because they tend to be more trusting/naive. Even snail-mail becomes an issue for some old folks; my grandmother has trouble differentiating junk mail from legitimate mail, it can somet…

My parents fall prey to a new Facebook scam every couple weeks. I can’t even keep up with it anymore.

Scam isn’t even the right word. More like “scheme”. Everything from anti-aging pills to travel clubs to worse. Between this garbage and the fake news nonsense Facebook is an absolute disease at this point.

Honestly, someone should start a campaign to ask Mark Zuckerberg to just delete it. Cash out and delete it for the good of humanity.

Re: "This community is available in the app"

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Post by [deleted] »

doubleunplussed wrote: post #27
fireattack wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Reddit is one of a few websites that I feel dedicated app works much better than browser, but I use 3rd party one(s).

Is there any app that can essentially open threads in a new tab like in a browser? This is the one thing keeping me in the mobile browser. Well, that and my girlfriends reddit app seems to fail to load GIFs a decent fraction of the time.

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Re: "This community is available in the app"

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Post by deanclatworthy »

bad_user wrote: post #37
fireattack wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Reddit is one of a few websites that I feel dedicated app works much better than browser, but I use 3rd party one(s).

I don't agree, for one b/c Reddit is a links aggregator and opening links works best in a full browser instead of a shitty in-app web view, plus it's the little things like ability to copy/paste or go back to a previous page, that are sometimes emulated in native apps, but never work well. But even if you think Reddit works better in a native app for you, that's by design. Reddit is making the web experience shitty o…

There are many many hugely active communicates which are far more than link aggregators on reddit. Communities with 100s of 1000s or subscribers.

Re: "This community is available in the app"

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Post by mcraiha »

dleslie wrote: post #46
thaumaturgy wrote: post #30

Reddit has been a/b testing behavior like this for months. Multiple different popups with variations on "view this in the app"; in some cases the popup is on every single page load, sometimes only once. They started blurring images on select subreddits with a message that you could only view the sub in their app. Okay, I know they're chasing one of two things here: a higher level of revenue from the advertising they…

I've started using third party apps to access Reddit.

But you still need to install an app. Some people do not want to install apps to their mobile devices. And they do not want to register to get read only access. They just want to browse the content.

Re: "This community is available in the app"

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Post by willberman »

krtkush wrote: post #53
willberman wrote: post #51

Instagram only allows you to see a portion of a user's photos before forcing you to login. It does this on both mobile and browser. I'm not a big application design junkey, but it's behavior like this that makes me appreciate the simplicity of hacker news. A few standard concepts implemented in their most basic form. No changes in the name of more user engagement. I understand that Reddit and Instagram's primary moti…

> Instagram only allows you to see a portion of a user's photos before forcing you to login. It does this on both mobile and browser. For the curious, adblockers can get rid of the annoying pop-ups.

I just tried, and I can only use my adblocker to block the element that requests I login. My scrolling is still stopped, and I can't see anymore of a user's photos. Am I missing something?

Re: "This community is available in the app"

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Post by themagician »

sillysaurusx wrote: post #45
blhack wrote: post #23

What a strange thing to be this user hostile. When stuff like this happens, people look for alternatives, and even if they don’t switch immediately, this really erodes any loyalty they have to your brand/service. I think Facebook is experiencing a similar thing. A frustrating amount of my network has quit, which makes planning events more difficult (and is frustrating). The difference for Facebook is that they have e…

An alternative to Reddit? It's a monopoly. Where are you going to go? Voat? They can be as horrible to their users as they want. As long as they have cat pictures on the front page, nobody cares enough to change anything. I think we're all getting exactly what is deserved by collectively allowing a monopoly to form. (I'm not suggesting there should be legal action. I'm saying, by the laws of exponential curves and po…

It’s a monopoly on what? It’s just a collection of message boards.

Re: "This community is available in the app"

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Post by sillysaurusx »

mirimir wrote: post #57
sillysaurusx wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

An alternative to Reddit? It's a monopoly. Where are you going to go? Voat? They can be as horrible to their users as they want. As long as they have cat pictures on the front page, nobody cares enough to change anything. I think we're all getting exactly what is deserved by collectively allowing a monopoly to form. (I'm not suggesting there should be legal action. I'm saying, by the laws of exponential curves and po…

How about Snew?[0] I see TFA.[1] So maybe everything. But I guess that replies aren't implemented :( > Snew is an open-source parody client for reddit. > It is a client forked from the reddit source code that runs entirely in your browser. > Snew attempts to undo reddit's pervasive censorship > Content is pulled directly from the reddit api and pushshift.io 0) https://snew.notabug.io/r/all/ 1) https://snew.notabug.io…

Hmm, you mean notabug? https://notabug.io/

Interesting. Seems active too.

There's also tildes: https://tildes.net/ (I tried googling them and they're nowhere to be found. Ironically /r/tildes popped up before the actual site did.)

And lobsters: https://lobste.rs/

Re: "This community is available in the app"

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Post by anon777778 »

thaumaturgy wrote: post #30

Reddit has been a/b testing behavior like this for months. Multiple different popups with variations on "view this in the app"; in some cases the popup is on every single page load, sometimes only once. They started blurring images on select subreddits with a message that you could only view the sub in their app. Okay, I know they're chasing one of two things here: a higher level of revenue from the advertising they…

I am mostly dropping reddit as well. 90% of the time spent there was in the public transport. It was basically 5 min of reddit, 5 min reading news, 5 min of email checking etc. Dropping reddit from my mix is trivial.
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