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Re: Plasma 5.18

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Post by toupeira »

shrikant wrote: post #27
jonny383 wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Generally speaking, multi-display monitor support is a mess on Linux (especially if you so anything slightly out of the ordinary). KDE honestly seems the best for this, although on the latest version of GNOME has fractional scaling available behind a flag (although also buggy and very slow).

> [...] multi-display monitor support is a mess on Linux (especially if you so anything slightly out of the ordinary). Testify :( I'm still struggling to get my (IMHO, extremely vanilla) setup working (Ubuntu on Thinkpad T430 + 2 external QHD monitors), and I'd appreciate any pointers to any resources that can help me resolve this.

https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/HiDPI has lots of information.

I have a Thinkpad X1C and an external monitor, both with QHD resolution. What I ended up with is using xrandr scaling to increase the resolution of the external monitor (probably should have gotten a 4K instead...), and tweaking font sizes and Firefox's UI scaling until it looks okay on both screens. For QT apps I also had to set QT_AUTO_SCREEN_SCALE_FACTOR=0. Some proprietary apps are still too small though, so I tend not to use them ;-)

The xrandr scaling is applied through a script and not persistent, so I mapped it to a keyboard shortcut I can press when I reconnect the monitor.

My script looks like this:

  xrandr \
    --output eDP-1 --pos 0x0    --scale 0.9999x0.9999 \
    --output DP-2  --pos 2560x0 --scale 1.25x1.25
The silly 0.9999x0.9999 scaling on the first screen is to work around a mouse flickering bug in the modesetting driver: https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/xorg/xserver/issues/70

Re: Plasma 5.18

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Post by jcrben »

useragent86 wrote: post #59

I don't think this is a good idea: > There are quite a few new things in Plasma 5.18's System Settings. First and foremost is the optional User Feedback settings. These are disabled by default to protect your privacy. > That said, if you do decide to share information about your installation with us, none of the options allows the system to send any kind of personal information. In fact, the Feedback settings slider…

As someone who wants to share as much information on bugs as possible, it seems great!

Re: Plasma 5.18

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Post by majewsky »

dman wrote: post #58
jhoechtl wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As a die hardcore kde fan I am not of a fanboi enough to admit that Gnome has the best HiDPI multi-monitor wayland fractional scaling support of any DE I am aware of.

Things like dwm / i3 handle this much better since there isnt any UI to scale. You just set the right font size and you are good to go.

HiDPI support is more than setting a font size for the task bar. The tricky part is getting application windows to rescale their UI as they're moved between screens with different scaling factors (e.g. from a notebook screen with high DPI to a projector with low DPI).

Re: Plasma 5.18

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Post by nonbirithm »

opencl wrote: post #24
jonny383 wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Generally speaking, multi-display monitor support is a mess on Linux (especially if you so anything slightly out of the ordinary). KDE honestly seems the best for this, although on the latest version of GNOME has fractional scaling available behind a flag (although also buggy and very slow).

System76 added a 'HiDPI daemon' for handling mixed-DPI multimonitor setups in GNOME to their PopOS distro, in my experience it works less badly than the alternatives. https://blog.system76.com/post/168340008923/hidpi-is-release...

It's open source also, so you could theoretically use it in a different distro.

https://github.com/pop-os/hidpi-daemon

Re: Plasma 5.18

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Post by viraptor »

jhoechtl wrote: post #51
skriticos2 wrote: post #20

I just recently switched to kubuntu (KDE) back from fedora (Gnome 3). On one hand I do like that the desktop does not try to re-define basic muscle memory things, like changing the shortcut if you try to switch between two windows of the same application. (Seriously Gnome, WTF?). On the other hand it crashed left and right after install (less so now that it settled down a bit) and there are a million QA type problems…

As a die hardcore kde fan I am not of a fanboi enough to admit that Gnome has the best HiDPI multi-monitor wayland fractional scaling support of any DE I am aware of.

Isn't gnome scaling only by whole numbers? Or did they get the fractional scaling out of experimental status? (Ubuntu 19.04 still had it as an experimental mutter setting)

Re: Plasma 5.18

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Post by ryukafalz »

useragent86 wrote: post #59

I don't think this is a good idea: > There are quite a few new things in Plasma 5.18's System Settings. First and foremost is the optional User Feedback settings. These are disabled by default to protect your privacy. > That said, if you do decide to share information about your installation with us, none of the options allows the system to send any kind of personal information. In fact, the Feedback settings slider…

Why not? So long as it’s disabled by default and users are therefore intentionally turning it on, I think it’s fine.

Re: Plasma 5.18

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Post by ryukafalz »

niccolove wrote: post #46
yori wrote: post #32

I use XFCE. Are there any good reasons to switch to KDE? Honest question.

I think so, but what exactly depends on what you need. Commonly liked features are: - User intuitive widgets that can be easily dragged around in panels with a third party store directly in Plasma itself, containing useful widgets such as calendar events sync and todo lists - Complete customization but also pretty by default and getting better; browse third party colorschemes, plasma themes, global themes, panel layo…

> e.g.: TVs afaik

Wait, TVs? Where can I read more about this?

Re: Plasma 5.18

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Post by elkos »

I'm a Debian user that uses KDE (most of the timel, in many cases people insist on suggesting that the standard KDE experience in Debian is subpar. I'm am fairly happy with it but is anyone aware of a solution to enhance that experience to something more close to what the KDE community considers ideal?
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