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Re: Show HN: Our new $149 hackable Bluetooth wristwatch

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post #53

Correct me if I am wrong. I think I have found a way to track sales of both the models on sale. Depending on how many items you ask for in order screen, it lets you go ahead or displays "stock unavailable". For the Mettalic Silver, It seems 57 items are available at the time of writing. and for Black Anodized, it is 108. I have to take a reasonable assumption now to get the sales numbers (may be 200 at beginning?).

56 and 107 now. Seems you are right.

Re: Show HN: Our new $149 hackable Bluetooth wristwatch

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There is a similar product, Sony Ericsson LiveView, which can be worn as a wristwatch and paired with an Android phone: http://www.sonyericsson.com/cws/products/accessories/overvie...

Retails for EUR 39.50.

I do not own one so cannot say anything about how well it works -- just came across it randomly yesterday when buying something online. If the client is Android-based it is almost certain the protocol can be easily reverse engineered to make it hackable from other paired devices.

Re: Show HN: Our new $149 hackable Bluetooth wristwatch

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post #44

This is a very hacker-unfriendly device. I wouldn't buy one. The SDK's compilation tool doesn't invoke a compiler; it uploads your code to a service running off of http://174.129.29.50:8080 . The Arduino is fantastic because the bootloader is open-source, the hardware is open-source, and it's easy to find out full information about the hardware and pull the MCU datasheets yourself.

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Re: Show HN: Our new $149 hackable Bluetooth wristwatch

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post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'd love to hear a counter to this. I was really close to buying one...

Hi Guys, Eric from inPulse here. We're trying to make it as easy as possible for people to develop for inPulse. That's why we've built a cloudcompile service. No messing with DLLs, drivers and other annoying parts of embedded coding. I think we've succeeded! In our beta testing, users were able to go from downloading the SDK zip to loading their first app on inPulse within 5-8 minutes. I think that's pretty impressiv…

I've never heard of a cloud compile service, but I think in this case, it's a good idea. Especially since not many people have experience with cross-compiling.

One of the things that make Arduino so popular is the ease of use in getting code a) to compile and b) get uploaded to the device. If this works via a service, then so be it.

But, I would like to see instructions for setting up a local amr-gcc toolchain, just to be complete.

Re: Show HN: Our new $149 hackable Bluetooth wristwatch

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post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'd love to hear a counter to this. I was really close to buying one...

Hi Guys, Eric from inPulse here. We're trying to make it as easy as possible for people to develop for inPulse. That's why we've built a cloudcompile service. No messing with DLLs, drivers and other annoying parts of embedded coding. I think we've succeeded! In our beta testing, users were able to go from downloading the SDK zip to loading their first app on inPulse within 5-8 minutes. I think that's pretty impressiv…

It's certainly easy to use, as long as the server remains up. But do I still have full control over the code that I upload to you, or does it count as "user-generated content" in http://www.getinpulse.com/terms/? What privacy guarantees do you make regarding the code that I upload? (Hopefully very little; it is transmitted in the clear, after all..)

We live in a world where device vendors (even small ones) routinely use technical means to thwart hackers and other tinkerers. Often, this is done under the guise of usability or security (sometimes with some justification, even). Plenty of people don't mind trading away some control for stability or ease-of-use.

This is a forum for hackers, and you just called your device "hackable". I'm saying that it's not, currently; it's a black box with an SDK that does cloud compilation. You don't document that fact anywhere or provide an ready alternative, and there's no information about what's underneath your API, either OS or hardware.

Re: Show HN: Our new $149 hackable Bluetooth wristwatch

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For comparison: Texas Instruments sell something called the EZ430 Chronos watch, which has a much lower-res display, a proprietary RF protocol with a USB transceiver, and a bunch more sensors including 3-axis accelerometers, pressure and temperature. It is based on the MSP430 microprocessor which is much less powerful than this thing, its capped at 16mhz or something IIRC and only has around 8K of program space. It i…

My eZ430 only took a year to ship. Can't wait for this :D

Re: Show HN: Our new $149 hackable Bluetooth wristwatch

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post #41

I've had this page bookmarked for months, waiting to be able to order it (back when it was just designed as a bluetooth extension to blackberry devices). Petty about US/CA shipping only, seems a pretty dumb move (unless there's some reason, other than shipping costs which you can make customers pay, for limiting who can buy it).

>(unless there's some reason, other than shipping costs which you can make customers pay, for limiting who can buy it) Shipping goods for money internationally is a bureaucratic nightmare. A million possible edge cases to do with tax and so forth. This is why hardware startups often only take orders from their home country for their first batch.

I have zero experience in this area, but could it be that the manufacturer has to go through an approval process and/or have liability insurance in each country they ship to?

Re: Show HN: Our new $149 hackable Bluetooth wristwatch

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post #46

A bit expensive for a watch, but still very very cool!

I've paid that much (and more) for watches that did nothing more than tell the current time and date. Their price seems eminently reasonable to me.

you paid for design
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