10k emails per month is generous. Maybe too generous. Selfishly I wish they didn't increase the price, but as a aspiring SaaS founder, it's totally fair that they did. They do provide value. But 625 emails per month amounts to around 20 emails per day. If you have 5 customers, then you can send them 4 emails per day. So not much. I wish they found a middle ground here.
Tell HN: Mailgun lowers free-tier API from 10k to 625 emails per month
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Re: Tell HN: Mailgun lowers free-tier API from 10k to 625 emails per month
#62“I thought you said it would be free?” “It probably will be, but we still have to add your card.” “What do you mean ‘probably’?”
Re: Tell HN: Mailgun lowers free-tier API from 10k to 625 emails per month
#63Is there any alternative to Mailgun for sending / receive mails for free? Let's say 500mails per month? Thank you.
So if you're already paying for some cloud hosting somewhere you likely have a free email service you can use.
Re: Tell HN: Mailgun lowers free-tier API from 10k to 625 emails per month
#64I use Mailgun with various client sites. Where I find these sorts of services awkward as they become paid (Google Maps APIs are similar) is that for each client I have to put my credit card on file, monitor charges and bear costs in case of a blow-up OR I have to go through the hassle of coaching technically hapless clients through logging in and adding a credit card. “I thought you said it would be free?” “It probab…
Re: Tell HN: Mailgun lowers free-tier API from 10k to 625 emails per month
#65So under the guise of spam protection, we have created an oligopoly of email gateways, despite sending an email being an utterly trivial, long solved problem, and now those companies are putting the squeeze on. The best part about this particular item on the list of "things that have only gotten worse over time": they charge companies more to deliver what is essentially spam, and they conspired to make that spam show…
Asking someone's permissions first, tracking their desires and immediately updating your response is what they solve.
Seems trivial? Try doing it for (looks at note) 626 people.
Re: Tell HN: Mailgun lowers free-tier API from 10k to 625 emails per month
#66Earlier quoted context omitted.
You can still do that. However, I, as a receiver of email, get thousands of spam messages a day. So, I use services that block them before they even reach my view, or get sent directly to the spam folder. If you want to send me an email, that's solved. If you want to send it to ten thousand people on your mailing list, and not have it end up in the spam folder, you may have more work.
Please explain the difference to me. Mailgun is sending tons and tons of spam email; what is so special about them that they aren't ending up in people's spam/junk folders?
Re: Tell HN: Mailgun lowers free-tier API from 10k to 625 emails per month
#67Earlier quoted context omitted.
Hobbyist to me means that you are doing it for fun and aren't engaging more than 5-10 people. So given that, I'm having a hard time understanding how 10 people could handle 625 emails a month.
I communicate with family and very few close friends only (less than 10 people) and my Mailgun stats show about 1k emails per month.
Re: Tell HN: Mailgun lowers free-tier API from 10k to 625 emails per month
#68So under the guise of spam protection, we have created an oligopoly of email gateways, despite sending an email being an utterly trivial, long solved problem, and now those companies are putting the squeeze on. The best part about this particular item on the list of "things that have only gotten worse over time": they charge companies more to deliver what is essentially spam, and they conspired to make that spam show…
AFAIK, SPAM is a still a hard problem, and getting emails delivered isn't trivial.
"Under the guise of Spam" is a very reductionist viewpoint. It's like saying "Under the guise of the measles, we now have an oligopoly of pharmaceuticals." The latter might be true, but its important not to understate the threat of the former.
Re: Tell HN: Mailgun lowers free-tier API from 10k to 625 emails per month
#69I use Mailgun with various client sites. Where I find these sorts of services awkward as they become paid (Google Maps APIs are similar) is that for each client I have to put my credit card on file, monitor charges and bear costs in case of a blow-up OR I have to go through the hassle of coaching technically hapless clients through logging in and adding a credit card. “I thought you said it would be free?” “It probab…
The problem is having clients who expect free...or rather delivering free to clients who expect free. Your job isn't to save the client money on your services. If having your credit card on file provides value to the client, then charge the client. If it doesn't, charge them anyway because it has value to you.
I think some people underestimate how cost-sensitive some clients are. And how time poor some small businesses are.
Re: Tell HN: Mailgun lowers free-tier API from 10k to 625 emails per month
#70Is there any other service instead of Mailgun who can also receive/resend incoming mails? I didn't find anything nice. thank you.