Facebook Financial Results 2019 Q4 • Hacker News Board

Re: Facebook Financial Results 2019 Q4

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Post by woodpanel » Thu, Jan 30, 2020, 4:07 PM UTC

saberience wrote: post #12

woodpanel wrote: post #2

FB down 7% after-markets, while beating estimates TSLA up 12% after-markets, with not so perfect numbers I'm puzzled. Short-Squeeze? Rockstar- vs. Voldemort-CEO? Or did some options-"whale" just sneezed during order execution?

Err Tesla mega beat earnings, what are you talking about?

First of all: Both companies beat estimates.

Second of all: FB has been profitable for years and is still growing its earnings at very high percentages, while TSLA is still incurring net losses. One could actually say that they didn't beat earnings-estimates but rather loss-estimates.

Add to that: TSLA's market cap is now higher than that of Ford, GM or VW. Sometimes a multiple of it. While still not making a profit.

Thus the question: Where do after-hours traders get the confidence for a 12% rise?

Re: Facebook Financial Results 2019 Q4

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Post by ridaj » Fri, Jan 31, 2020, 4:12 AM UTC

likpok wrote: post #8

empath75 wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Fb seems like a company that’s past it’s peak. Their brand and public image is garbage and they’re just going to extract as much profits from their dwindling user base as they can on the way down.

User growth is up, even on Facebook alone. If what you say is true you might expect weekly users to be up-or-flat while daily is declining, as people are locked in to the platform but less engaged with it. But daily users are also up.

Are their usage numbers up only in those markets that monetize poorly though?

Re: Facebook Financial Results 2019 Q4

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Post by new2628 » Fri, Jan 31, 2020, 10:56 AM UTC

dang wrote: post #51

new2628 wrote: post #33

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An occasional diarrhea.

Please don't do this here.

Sorry, it was too much, I agree.

To be fair, the anger came from my dislike of Facebook and similar services. Isn't strong language warranted if you talked about something you see as destroying the fabric of society? I thought that talking politely about them is already "normalizing" something that is harmful. What if the discussion was about drug dealers, the mafia, or such?

Re: Facebook Financial Results 2019 Q4

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Post by dang » Sat, Feb 01, 2020, 7:34 AM UTC

new2628 wrote: post #63

dang wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Please don't do this here.

Sorry, it was too much, I agree. To be fair, the anger came from my dislike of Facebook and similar services. Isn't strong language warranted if you talked about something you see as destroying the fabric of society? I thought that talking politely about them is already "normalizing" something that is harmful. What if the discussion was about drug dealers, the mafia, or such?

Even then it's necessary to remain thoughtful and substantive, because that's the only way to preserve the container for intellectual curiosity. Our duty to preserve the commons here is a higher priority than lashing out at ill-doers who are further away.

Re: Facebook Financial Results 2019 Q4

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Post by busymom0 » Sat, Feb 01, 2020, 9:05 AM UTC

woodpanel wrote: post #61

saberience wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Err Tesla mega beat earnings, what are you talking about?

First of all: Both companies beat estimates. Second of all: FB has been profitable for years and is still growing its earnings at very high percentages, while TSLA is still incurring net losses. One could actually say that they didn't beat earnings-estimates but rather loss-estimates. Add to that: TSLA's market cap is now higher than that of Ford, GM or VW. Sometimes a multiple of it. While still not making a profit.…

> While still not making a profit.

If I remember reading it right, 2019 was their first year they made an annual profit (small 30 some millions though). Also it's much harder to make profits for hardware (Tesla) than a software company like FB.