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Nokia to developers: no Qt for Windows Phone development

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Re: Nokia to developers: no Qt for Windows Phone development

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Azure is Microsofts cloud-computing platform, think you must mean something else?

Nope. I'm sure there will be corner cases where Silverlight will actually be just the right tool.

Er,its liking comparing Flash with Amazon EC2, I'm sure you're thinking that Azure is something else

Re: Nokia to developers: no Qt for Windows Phone development

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post #61

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Nope. I'm sure there will be corner cases where Silverlight will actually be just the right tool.

Er,its liking comparing Flash with Amazon EC2, I'm sure you're thinking that Azure is something else

Er,its liking comparing Flash with Amazon EC2, I'm sure you're thinking that Azure is something else

Silverlight and Azure are different things, but they're both marketed towards developers who would like to take functionality, much of it in the form of internal apps, and make it accessible on the web or otherwise over WAN. I know this, because some Microsoft folks were pitching Azure to me just yesterday!

Yes, things don't make sense if you're stuck on "compete = comparable." A little reflection, and you should realize this isn't a very good assumption. (Teleconferencing and airlines, anyone?)

Re: Nokia to developers: no Qt for Windows Phone development

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Why didn't they choose Android?

SE, Samsung, Motorola, HTC are all heavily invested in Android and are miles ahead of Nokia. They can chose to run an outside lane in that race, or they can lead up Windows Phone 7. All people with WP7 devices are just token efforts, Dell, LG aren't major players like the aforementioned companies are, HTC owe everything they have to Android. Nokia can take WP7 and become the market leader, with Microsoft investing he…

I wouldn't say Samsung, Moto, and HTC are "miles ahead of Nokia". They're running essentially stock Android with crappy tack-ons that nobody cares for (when's the last time any OEM's take on Android has received praise instead of complaint?), being glacially slow with updates...

With stock Android as a starting point and, well, a clue, Nokia can easily overtake Samsung, Moto, and HTC. Just by keeping good time with Google's own updates, and developing a customized Android UI that doesn't suck, Nokia can pull ahead.

That being said, I think the WP7 choice isn't a bad one. At MS Nokia would be customer #1. At Google Nokia would be just another OEM.

Re: Nokia to developers: no Qt for Windows Phone development

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Learning moment: developers can't be wedded to a particular technology. Qt is fantastic but it's not the business. We can't invest ourselves in companies that are floundering and Nokia has been floundering for a number of years. If you find yourself investing your talents in a company that has multiple directional changes you need to consider the likelihood that the company will ever return to good times.

so by that logic: - if you develop for Palm WebOS, you're relying on company whose main business is selling printer ink - if you develop for Android, you're relying on company whose main business is selling ads - if you develop for iOS, you're relying on company whose main business is selling audiovisual content and portable players for it then Microsoft IS the only company that you can rely on, since it's primary bu…

Well, or there's Blackberry.

Re: Nokia to developers: no Qt for Windows Phone development

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post #61

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Er,its liking comparing Flash with Amazon EC2, I'm sure you're thinking that Azure is something else

Er,its liking comparing Flash with Amazon EC2, I'm sure you're thinking that Azure is something else Silverlight and Azure are different things, but they're both marketed towards developers who would like to take functionality, much of it in the form of internal apps, and make it accessible on the web or otherwise over WAN. I know this , because some Microsoft folks were pitching Azure to me just yesterday! Yes, thin…

Teleconferencing and airlines solve a common problem, but what common problem do Azure and Silverlight share? They've got basically nothing to do with each other, except for as you say, that they're marketed at developers (?)

Re: Nokia to developers: no Qt for Windows Phone development

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Why didn't they choose Android?

Android is growing, but it's hard for carriers to differentiate themselves on top of it. The carrier UIs (other than Sense, perhaps) tend to be dislike versus stock Android, so that makes the only way to stand out on Android seem less attractive.

Assuming you mean "manufacturer" when you write "carrier", I think they can very well differentiate themselves by building the best devices (better screens, better battery life, better reception - well that would be the carriers, lower price, etc, etc).

Re: Nokia to developers: no Qt for Windows Phone development

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post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

SE, Samsung, Motorola, HTC are all heavily invested in Android and are miles ahead of Nokia. They can chose to run an outside lane in that race, or they can lead up Windows Phone 7. All people with WP7 devices are just token efforts, Dell, LG aren't major players like the aforementioned companies are, HTC owe everything they have to Android. Nokia can take WP7 and become the market leader, with Microsoft investing he…

I wouldn't say Samsung, Moto, and HTC are "miles ahead of Nokia". They're running essentially stock Android with crappy tack-ons that nobody cares for (when's the last time any OEM's take on Android has received praise instead of complaint?), being glacially slow with updates... With stock Android as a starting point and, well, a clue, Nokia can easily overtake Samsung, Moto, and HTC. Just by keeping good time with G…

you forget that carriers decide updates, not the manufacturer.

Re: Nokia to developers: no Qt for Windows Phone development

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post #68

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I wouldn't say Samsung, Moto, and HTC are "miles ahead of Nokia". They're running essentially stock Android with crappy tack-ons that nobody cares for (when's the last time any OEM's take on Android has received praise instead of complaint?), being glacially slow with updates... With stock Android as a starting point and, well, a clue, Nokia can easily overtake Samsung, Moto, and HTC. Just by keeping good time with G…

you forget that carriers decide updates, not the manufacturer.

Not for Apple. OTA updates are great, but if the carriers don't play ball customers should still be able to plug their phones in and easily upgrade.

WP7 has the advantage of having Apple-style end-to-end integration, giving them a very natural place to issue non-OTA updates.

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