Video Gaming Will Take Over • Hacker News Board

Re: Video Gaming Will Take Over

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Post by moretai » Tue, Jan 14, 2020, 10:06 PM UTC

xmonkee wrote: post #57

This analysis is completely missing out on the auteur angle of media production. Games Are Not Art (Yet). Even if they get immensely popular, they will not be as culturally relevant as movies or books. A mind like Orson Welles will never be compelled to make the Citizen Kane of games. I think at some point cookie cutter cinema like Marvel will seamlessly blend into the cultural domain of video games. Movies like that…

Sorry to do this, but then what is Art?

Movies are made by corporations backed by millions of dollars. There have been incredible moments that I've experienced in video games, whether it be a cutscene, or gameplay. I've been moved to emotion. In awe.

Not comparing Kojima to Welles, but isn't MGS his singular vision?

Re: Video Gaming Will Take Over

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Post by NoPicklez » Tue, Jan 14, 2020, 10:21 PM UTC

setr wrote: post #40

giancarlostoro wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Oh right, console gamer problems. I guess cloud gaming will make them happy, I really hope it doesn't bleed over into PC gaming.

PC gaming is already just playing catch-up on all the console strategies. That battle was lost as soon as Steam became popular (and game renting indefinitely became enforcable, even for offline games, on PC).

I always thought that it was console that was just playing catch up on all the PC strategies. Could you please further elaborate?

Re: Video Gaming Will Take Over

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Post by ihuman » Tue, Jan 14, 2020, 10:21 PM UTC

dudus wrote: post #45

Hamuko wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Those are technical problems that will get solved. How do you fix the distance between me and Google?

More PoPs and fiber. Both which are already much more ubiquitous than a few years ago and fast expanding. Plus you don't need to reach everyone for a successful product. Just a critical mass

Wouldn't that also solve the 20-minute update problem?

Re: Video Gaming Will Take Over

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Post by rolltiide » Tue, Jan 14, 2020, 10:22 PM UTC

And now I'd like to see a renowned woman in analyst come to the same conclusions!

Re: Video Gaming Will Take Over

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Post by SketchySeaBeast » Tue, Jan 14, 2020, 10:22 PM UTC

setr wrote: post #40

giancarlostoro wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Oh right, console gamer problems. I guess cloud gaming will make them happy, I really hope it doesn't bleed over into PC gaming.

PC gaming is already just playing catch-up on all the console strategies. That battle was lost as soon as Steam became popular (and game renting indefinitely became enforcable, even for offline games, on PC).

I was surprised this generation to see that they still have disc drives in consoles. I imagine next gen they'll finally be gone.

Re: Video Gaming Will Take Over

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Post by SkyPuncher » Tue, Jan 14, 2020, 10:25 PM UTC

giancarlostoro wrote: post #19

FooHentai wrote: post #3

>Cloud gaming means you will be able to take your game “everywhere” and avoid dreaded 20-minute updates before you can start playing. Doubt. In the same way that movies on PSP had this idea in mind but fell flat on it's face, games are strongly tied to the format and environment in which you consume them. FPS gaming with a keyboard and mouse isn't coming with you on your phone for the morning commute, and no amount o…

Honestly what games have 20 minute updates so often? I havent played a game like that in a while. I can only think of MMOs doing this. I agree as well though, keyboard and mouse is the superrior interface for me.

Nearly every major FPS has frequent updates.

It's not a huge deal if automatic updates work as expected. I've have too many times where my Playstation fails to auto-update and I'm stuck waiting an hour+ for an update.

Re: Video Gaming Will Take Over

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Post by owlninja » Tue, Jan 14, 2020, 10:34 PM UTC

VLM wrote: post #20

The author has an unusual water cooler. I pulled the viewership stats and well under two percent of the population watches "The Bachelor", so in somewhat more than 49 times out of 50, a water cooler discussion about legacy media would be met with "huh?". According to some Google research, there are typically around eight million concurrent fortnite players, which implies for every two people watching The Bachelor, th…

10M adults?

Re: Video Gaming Will Take Over

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Post by [deleted] » Tue, Jan 14, 2020, 10:36 PM UTC

giancarlostoro wrote: post #19

FooHentai wrote: post #3

>Cloud gaming means you will be able to take your game “everywhere” and avoid dreaded 20-minute updates before you can start playing. Doubt. In the same way that movies on PSP had this idea in mind but fell flat on it's face, games are strongly tied to the format and environment in which you consume them. FPS gaming with a keyboard and mouse isn't coming with you on your phone for the morning commute, and no amount o…

Honestly what games have 20 minute updates so often? I havent played a game like that in a while. I can only think of MMOs doing this. I agree as well though, keyboard and mouse is the superrior interface for me.

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Re: Video Gaming Will Take Over

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Post by EamonnMR » Tue, Jan 14, 2020, 10:45 PM UTC

Can we talk about those dreaded twenty minute updates? As someone who no longer has unlimited gaming time to burn, enormous updates that do nothing but make minor balance tweaks are the bane of my gaming experience.

Re: Video Gaming Will Take Over

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Post by danbolt » Tue, Jan 14, 2020, 10:45 PM UTC

jamesgeck0 wrote: post #21

FooHentai wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And I've seen a fair number of peeps playing minecraft on ipad too, so you have a point. They are separate, partitioned instances of the games though, tailored for the format.

They are not. Fortnite and Minecraft have cross-play with consoles and PC.

They do have cross-play, but as far as I know it's opt-in when playing with friends. Matchmaking will usually group you with others playing in a similar way.