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Please Don’t Abbreviate the Year ‘2020’ on Checks and Legal Documents

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Re: Please Don’t Abbreviate the Year ‘2020’ on Checks and Legal Documents

#61

Just switch to ISO 8601 formatted dates already: YYYY-MM-DD.

I've had my rant at someone already this year. A lawyer posting about legal documents saying "make sure you put all four digits in to avoid confusion" and the giving an example like 03/01/2020. Sigh.

To be real, that might be a date format I would fire a lawyer over.

Re: Please Don’t Abbreviate the Year ‘2020’ on Checks and Legal Documents

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(1) stop using checks already I always find it interesting how people of a certain age, and especially in technology bubbles, enjoy restricting their options so much, as if there is some kind of nobility in giving themselves fewer choices and less freedom in life. Best tool for the job is on Windows? No way, I only use bespoke FrotzOS distributions on a laptop I built myself from parts I reflowed in my co-living oven…

Checks are only a thing in the US because there is no proper banking infrastructure. Here in the EU we can transfer money person-to-person, person-to-business and business-to-business instantly between a very large variety of banking institutions spanning 10's of countries. No need for routing instructions, correspondent banks, transfer accounts or any of that bs, and it's cheap to boot. There is absolutely no reason…

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Re: Please Don’t Abbreviate the Year ‘2020’ on Checks and Legal Documents

#63

Yet more reason to use the objectively correct date format. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_8601#Dates

How is it more "objectively correct" than DD-MM-YYYY?

For the same reasons the time format HH:MM:SS is objectively correct and and not HH:SS:MM, SS:MM:HH, MM:SS:HH, SS:HH:MM, or MM:HH:SS.

Re: Please Don’t Abbreviate the Year ‘2020’ on Checks and Legal Documents

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How is it more "objectively correct" than DD-MM-YYYY?

For the same reasons the time format HH:MM:SS is objectively correct and and not HH:SS:MM, SS:MM:HH, MM:SS:HH, SS:HH:MM, or MM:HH:SS.

No, dates are for humans not computers sorting things. DD-MM-YYYY is "objectively better" because that's how most humans read dates. See where this is going?

Re: Please Don’t Abbreviate the Year ‘2020’ on Checks and Legal Documents

#66

Yet more reason to use the objectively correct date format. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_8601#Dates

That is the right format but 'normal people' assume context first so the 12th of January without further context indicates the present year and the 12th of January 2019 or just '19 is enough to disambiguate. The ISO date code was created with computers in mind (sort order) but real people are not computers and besides that there are quite a few other date systems in the world so it is biased to Gregorian anyway.

I think it's a small hurdle to overcome. Our visual parsing routine can be updated to read YYYY-MM-DD focusing on the rightmost digits, if those are what's important.

Re: Please Don’t Abbreviate the Year ‘2020’ on Checks and Legal Documents

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post #54

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Checks are only a thing in the US because there is no proper banking infrastructure. Here in the EU we can transfer money person-to-person, person-to-business and business-to-business instantly between a very large variety of banking institutions spanning 10's of countries. No need for routing instructions, correspondent banks, transfer accounts or any of that bs, and it's cheap to boot. There is absolutely no reason…

I guess you're not including UK here? Checks are a thing in UK and is very common for .gov institutions: driving licence? Write a check. Overpaid taxes? Receive check. Pay national insurance gaps? Write a check. It's good though that pretty much every banking app has ability to scan and deposit a check to your account in a matter of seconds.

I can't remember the last time I even saw a personal cheque in the UK.

Re: Please Don’t Abbreviate the Year ‘2020’ on Checks and Legal Documents

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Basically you shouldn’t worry about this legally or practically. The law is robust enough to prevent this from being an issue

Why the hell shouldn't they worry about practicality?

Listen to the podcast.

Re: Please Don’t Abbreviate the Year ‘2020’ on Checks and Legal Documents

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I guess you're not including UK here? Checks are a thing in UK and is very common for .gov institutions: driving licence? Write a check. Overpaid taxes? Receive check. Pay national insurance gaps? Write a check. It's good though that pretty much every banking app has ability to scan and deposit a check to your account in a matter of seconds.

I can't comment on the rest but I recently paid for my driving license electronically.

For taxes you can choose whether to get a check or have the money deposited directly into a bank account.

Re: Please Don’t Abbreviate the Year ‘2020’ on Checks and Legal Documents

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post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I guess you're not including UK here? Checks are a thing in UK and is very common for .gov institutions: driving licence? Write a check. Overpaid taxes? Receive check. Pay national insurance gaps? Write a check. It's good though that pretty much every banking app has ability to scan and deposit a check to your account in a matter of seconds.

I can't remember the last time I even saw a personal cheque in the UK.

I remember - few weeks ago.
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