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Our Tesla Model 3 Suffered a Failure While Parked

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Re: Our Tesla Model 3 Suffered a Failure While Parked

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Post by jessriedel »

remmargorp64 wrote: post #2

On the flip side, how cool is it that cars are now smart enough to diagnose themselves and prevent you from driving before what could potentially be an unsafe situation has a chance to occur?

The fraction of serious accidents that are caused by mechanical failure is just 12%. Of mechanically induced accidents, two-thirds were caused by the failure/degradation of the tires, wheels, or brakes.

https://crashstats.nhtsa.dot.gov/Api/Public/ViewPublication/...

So for diagnostics other than tires, wheels, and brakes, we are talking about a system that can prevent at most 4% of accidents, and probably much, much less. Given the huge number of false positives, I'd much rather cars notify the driver in detail (not just a vague "check engine" warning) and let the driver decide how to proceed, rather than irrevocably disabling themselves.

Consider: we could also probably eliminate 20% of accidents by prohibiting drivers from driving in wet conditions, but instead we reasonably instruct drivers to drive more cautiously and accept that some wetness induced accidents will occur nevertheless.

Re: Our Tesla Model 3 Suffered a Failure While Parked

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Post by close04 »

ceejayoz wrote: post #30
MBCook wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Did the focus cost $57k?

Expensive cars tend to be more finicky, not less.

I don't think the problem is that a car broke down (happens to any car). But the higher end the car, the higher end the service you expect. A Ford Focus is anything but premium so I'm sure few people expect premium services attached to the purchase. A ~$60.000 car is a different story.

Re: Our Tesla Model 3 Suffered a Failure While Parked

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Post by rzzzt »

jessaustin wrote: post #16
travelton wrote: post #5

"Catastrophic Failure" sounds a bit dramatic.

TFA mentions a "pyrotechnic battery" which sounds like a great feature for a military fort but not so much for an automobile?

"Disconnect" also belongs to the expression - essentially, a tiny explosive is used to ensure that the safety switch disconnects the battery from the load side, permanently and without arcing: https://insideevs.com/news/334322/tesla-patents-pyrotechnic-...

Re: Our Tesla Model 3 Suffered a Failure While Parked

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Post by o-__-o »

RandallBrown wrote: post #13
izacus wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Now"? This has been implemented for years - most people just call it "Check engine light" ;)

The check engine light doesn't send a notification directly to your phone with a diagnosis of what's wrong.

So, yes, car manufacturers do exactly this right now. But if you want exact details, or if you have an older MY car you can plug in your own odb-ii reader and download one of the many apps to get those details.

My car just threw a CEL and it was because I put low octane gas in. I knew this but also found this by using the handy Forscan app

Re: Our Tesla Model 3 Suffered a Failure While Parked

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Post by mfer »

remmargorp64 wrote: post #2

On the flip side, how cool is it that cars are now smart enough to diagnose themselves and prevent you from driving before what could potentially be an unsafe situation has a chance to occur?

What about this situation said it was unsafe to drive? Not able to drive and not safe to are different things.

I’m reminded that many gas engines can drop into a degraded mode and still run when there is a problem like a sensor failing. Even a small oil leak can still be driven with. Degraded but not stranded.

Re: Our Tesla Model 3 Suffered a Failure While Parked

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Post by aquova »

remmargorp64 wrote: post #2

On the flip side, how cool is it that cars are now smart enough to diagnose themselves and prevent you from driving before what could potentially be an unsafe situation has a chance to occur?

I have the exact opposite reaction. There are very few things that can go wrong with a car that are dangerous enough for the car to automatically refuse to be driven. For what is the equivalent of the check engine light coming on, the car refuses to even be driven to the mechanic. I've had a history of older jalopies, but I've driven for probably a decade with a check engine light on. The odds of having your Tesla deciding to strand you in the middle of nowhere seems a lot higher than it saving itself from bursting into flames.

Re: Our Tesla Model 3 Suffered a Failure While Parked

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Post by sdinsn »

bigcloud1299 wrote: post #7

Recently my bothers Ford Focus had service engine light that had come on and vehicle was shut down. He had it towed to ford. which let him know that they recently had a recall on the model and they knew the exact issue. He was neither given rental nor Uber or loaner etc. he had to talk to his insurance company which also did not include recall as a clause so he had to rent. This sort of shit happens to all cars. Alth…

> He was neither given rental nor Uber or loaner etc

That's surprising. Whenever I take my honda in for service, I always get offered a loaner (even if it's just a couple hours of service)

Re: Our Tesla Model 3 Suffered a Failure While Parked

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Post by o-__-o »

sneak wrote: post #3

I think the general level of abysmal service from Tesla these days, plus the inability to casually sever the network connection/tracking, is the reason I will cancel my cybertruck order.

My wife saw a Kia Stinger in a parking lot the other day and started drooling over it. “Why didn’t you get this one??” I asked her to remember the horror stories we have gone through with our Ford dealership, I told her Kia service would be worse by 5 orders of magnitude.

You are being downvoted, but poor customer service is a real reason to avoid certain car brands..

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