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36th Chaos Communication Congress – Streams

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Re: 36th Chaos Communication Congress – Streams

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PSA: All talks will be live-translated between English and German, and into one additional language (primarily into French or Spanish; on occasion there were translations into Russian and Mandarin) [0]. If you find any talks on the schedule [1] that seem interesting but are in a language you're not fluent in, use the 'native'/'translated' switcher in the video player. Subtitles will be available after congress, here…

Will they be on youtube? Id like to watch them when travelling.

You can also download them from https://media.ccc.de

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Wtf? What the fuck are your political views that you are not allowed into the congress? And why do you think its a good argument of comparing kkk to something else? I don't even know whot you are comparing the kkk with.

The ccc has a Unvereinbarkeitserklärung

For those who need to search, that seems to roughly translate to "declaration of non-compatibility". CCC had declared that members of far-right groups are not welcome.

I don't think the KKK are a very good analogy for this; a better example might be McCarthyists/the House Committee on Un-American Activities, since they attack people based on political affiliation, which is at least nominally chosen, rather than inborn characteristics like skin color. Also the KKK made much more use of direct physical violence, rather than social and legal violence.

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seriously, i am surprised how possible is to flag normal comments, the previous comment on top of yours was pretty civil, i am really disappointed in HN community for such petty censorship

This is by design. HN tries to avoid controversial matters being discussed. The entire point of this discussion forum is to create value for YC by attracing/feeding potentential founders into their vortex. Political controversy is not good for business. Even if something has hundreds of upvotes, it seems like all it takes is maybe 3-5 flags to get it buried. This is pathethic and needs to be called out at a larger sc…

That's not quite right. We're trying to optimize for intellectual curiosity. The most interesting HN is the most valuable HN. There's no business objective beyond that (excepting the handful of formal things that HN explicitly gives back to YC in exchange for funding it, like job ads and Launch HNs for YC startups).

Plenty of politically controversial topics get discussed here. But it's also the case that many politically inflammatory threads are just not intellectually interesting. The people doing the bashing on both sides feel very strongly about it, but the majority of the audience here tunes out in tedium.

Case in point: internet bickering about Antifa. This is lame.

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I suppose that as long as you ignore both their methods, goals and who are they fighting against, there would be similarities. I'm not convinced of the usefulness of such excercise, though.

Goals and values, sure, they are obviously different. Methods? Not so sure there's a big difference.

Do you genuinely believe this? If yes, would you care to expand further on this? I'm utterly fascinated and would love to hear more background on what leads you to believe that this comparison is apt.

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Looking forward to this years installment of talks. I sort of wonder if this year will be a bit more technical again. The last 5 years felt like technical topics faded into the background in favor if social issues and knitting ...

If you're looking for a good and approachable talk about IM crypto and related subjects, hunt for this one once it gets published: https://fahrplan.events.ccc.de/congress/2019/Fahrplan/events... Saw it live and it was quite enjoyable.

Already published: https://media.ccc.de/v/36c3-10565-what_s_left_for_private_me...

Another talk that's pretty awesome is this one:

https://fahrplan.events.ccc.de/congress/2019/Fahrplan/events...

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PSA: All talks will be live-translated between English and German, and into one additional language (primarily into French or Spanish; on occasion there were translations into Russian and Mandarin) [0]. If you find any talks on the schedule [1] that seem interesting but are in a language you're not fluent in, use the 'native'/'translated' switcher in the video player. Subtitles will be available after congress, here…

You'd have to be lucky though. Unless you are/were an angel (volunteer) you'll have to depend on the ticket lottery. The switch to Hamburg wasn't enough to accommodate the number of participants nor did the switch to Leipzig. It really is a very popular event.

There where 3 dates for buying a ticket. For me it was no problem as the webpage for buying did not have the usual problems like being down when sale started. You have to be there in time though

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This is by design. HN tries to avoid controversial matters being discussed. The entire point of this discussion forum is to create value for YC by attracing/feeding potentential founders into their vortex. Political controversy is not good for business. Even if something has hundreds of upvotes, it seems like all it takes is maybe 3-5 flags to get it buried. This is pathethic and needs to be called out at a larger sc…

That's not quite right. We're trying to optimize for intellectual curiosity. The most interesting HN is the most valuable HN. There's no business objective beyond that (excepting the handful of formal things that HN explicitly gives back to YC in exchange for funding it, like job ads and Launch HNs for YC startups). Plenty of politically controversial topics get discussed here. But it's also the case that many politi…

Well, this is very subjective, and I am afraid if many people with agenda are reading a thread, its very easy to have flagged sensible(potentially interesting) comments not because of intellectual value, but because they're disliked. Not sure how to fix

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This is by design. HN tries to avoid controversial matters being discussed. The entire point of this discussion forum is to create value for YC by attracing/feeding potentential founders into their vortex. Political controversy is not good for business. Even if something has hundreds of upvotes, it seems like all it takes is maybe 3-5 flags to get it buried. This is pathethic and needs to be called out at a larger sc…

That's not quite right. We're trying to optimize for intellectual curiosity. The most interesting HN is the most valuable HN. There's no business objective beyond that (excepting the handful of formal things that HN explicitly gives back to YC in exchange for funding it, like job ads and Launch HNs for YC startups). Plenty of politically controversial topics get discussed here. But it's also the case that many politi…

This post was flagged soon after it was posted:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21890328

It informed people in a quite polite manner that there was a particular political alignment factor to this event. Many people commented and were thus apparently were interrested in the topic.

Is this lame? I don't get it.

I think you should at least increase the number of flag actions required to bury something (or better yet, rework the entire system from the ground up) - as it stands it's way too easy for political opponents to bury something they don't like. The Hong Kong-related threads have also illustrated this.

The bottom line: it's way too easy to kill information posted on HN.

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You also have to cater to your user base. Otherwise theres no point going to that conference instead of reading medium articles.

The Chaos Communication Congresses have sold out in seconds every year for a decade. Visitor numbers are limited only by how many people they think they can fit. It is unrivaled in technical, medial and cultural relevancy in the region. At that point, the question becomes not how you get people to come, but who you want at your event. And I'm very glad that for Congress, this means being unashamedly political, artist…

Last time a bunch of people tried too much to be "political, artistic, social, antifascist, inklusive", Trump was elected.

At least technicity is objective and drama free

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