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Re: Show HN: Angeldust – a fast and efficient video game

#62

For the senior citizens viewing this they might relate the term "AngelDust" with the dissociative PCP, let me assure them though, it hasn't been called AngelDust since the 70s. You'd be much more likely to hear it referred to as "wet" or "sherm". IF you went to the ghetto and tried t buy Angel Dust they'd think you were a cop. It's like calling weed "dope". Just a little disambiguation from a drug name etymologist :)

> For the senior citizens viewing this they might relate the term "AngelDust" with the dissociative PCP, let me assure them though, it hasn't been called AngelDust since the 70s.

I don't see that connection as an issue with the game or your post. It certainly isn't doing anyone any harm, despite what others suggested in earlier comments.

That said... I'm 21 years old, and I still associate "angel dust" with PCP. The name is still used by popular rappers including Mac Miller [0] and Run the Jewels [1]. It is still defined as PCP in 6 of the top 7 results, vs 5 of the top 7 for "sherm" and 0.3/7 for "wet" on Urban Dictionary [2,8,9]. Angel dust is the most common synonym for PCP on Urban Dictionary [10]. The name "angel dust" was used to refer to PCP in a 2011 episode of Its Always Sunny in Philadelphia [3]. The name is still in common parlance on Reddit [4,5,6]. However, the drug seems to have experienced a decline in popularity, accounting for less than 0.1% of all documented hallucinogenic drug use in the United States in 2017 [7] - suggesting that the term "angel dust" is not well known simply because the drug isn't commonly used, and not because the term has been abandoned.

I just don't want anyone to get into trouble thinking that they can use the phrase "Angel Dust" without it being seen as a reference to hard drugs by the general public.

I am also surprised that this association is being rejected, considering that the creator of the game is going by "Frank Lucas" [11], which is the name of a famous drug trafficker [12].

[0]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rIQqzTNRmoc

[1]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R_esHn4X03U

[2]: https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Angel%20Dust

[3]: https://itsalwayssunny.fandom.com/wiki/The_Gang_Goes_to_the_...

[4]: https://www.reddit.com/r/PCP/comments/ba1754/two_dimes_of_pc...

[5]: https://www.reddit.com/r/Drugs/comments/5tru38/what_is_angel...

[6]: https://www.reddit.com/r/serialpodcast/comments/2qove1/how_l...

[7]: https://www.drugabuse.gov/drugs-abuse/hallucinogens

[8]: https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=sherm

[9]: https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Wet

[10]: https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=PCP

[11]: https://angeldu.st/en/game#play-now-button-3

[12]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Lucas

Re: Show HN: Angeldust – a fast and efficient video game

#63
post #44

You seriously may want to reconsider the name. ‘Angel Dust’ is a slang for the narcotic PCP - I immediately was confused and only clicked so I could tell what it actually was. Not sure how this didn’t come up before? At any point in development? O.o Edit: whoa, downvotes, really? Care to say why? This is a legitimate concern?

Minor nit: PCP is a dissociative hallucinogen, not a narcotic.

"Narcotic" has shifted, at least in American vernacular, from meaning drugs that induce sleep to meaning any illegal or Schedule-I drug.

Merriam-Webster: https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/narcotic

Collin's Dictionary: https://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/narcoti...

Edit, regarding "no one calls marijuana a narcotic":

Not sure why I was downvoted, considering that we are discussing angel dust rather than marijuana.

The United States Government calls marijuana a narcotic:

[1]: https://www.federalregister.gov/documents/2019/08/29/2019-18...

[2]: https://www.incb.org/incb/en/narcotic-drugs/index.html

As do The UN and the World Health Organization (in process of amendment):

[1]: https://www.healthpolicy-watch.org/who-recommends-cannabis-s...

[2]: https://www.who.int/medicines/access/controlled-substances/U...

And the Australian Government: https://www.legislation.gov.au/Details/F2018L00106

As well as the Swiss Government: https://www.ch.ch/en/cannabis/

And the Government of Singapore: https://www.cnb.gov.sg/

And the European Union: http://www.emcdda.europa.eu/publications/topic-overviews/cla...

It's important to note the apparent legal definition of "narcotic" when discussing drugs, as it drastically differs from the traditional use, and includes a much longer list of substances.

Re: Show HN: Angeldust – a fast and efficient video game

#65

Do you have any plans to open-source all or parts of the game or underlying platform? Do you plan on developing this into it's own 'game engine' or plan on going further than this initial game? I've been following a few multi-threaded game projects and they are always very interesting to read up on, best of luck!

Yes, open sourcing at least the client part of the game is something that I'm very interested in. I'm not entirely sure when or how this will happen just yet, it will depend greatly on the commercial success of the game. But it's definitely my preferred course of action for the future.

EDIT: I'm not really interested in separating or spinning off the engine, but you will have few problems turning the game into something entirely different.

Re: Show HN: Angeldust – a fast and efficient video game

#66
post #44

You seriously may want to reconsider the name. ‘Angel Dust’ is a slang for the narcotic PCP - I immediately was confused and only clicked so I could tell what it actually was. Not sure how this didn’t come up before? At any point in development? O.o Edit: whoa, downvotes, really? Care to say why? This is a legitimate concern?

Minor nit: PCP is a dissociative hallucinogen, not a narcotic.

Narcotic has no real definition. It's a made up cop word.

Re: Show HN: Angeldust – a fast and efficient video game

#70

Do you have any plans to open-source all or parts of the game or underlying platform? Do you plan on developing this into it's own 'game engine' or plan on going further than this initial game? I've been following a few multi-threaded game projects and they are always very interesting to read up on, best of luck!

Yes, open sourcing at least the client part of the game is something that I'm very interested in. I'm not entirely sure when or how this will happen just yet, it will depend greatly on the commercial success of the game. But it's definitely my preferred course of action for the future. EDIT: I'm not really interested in separating or spinning off the engine, but you will have few problems turning the game into someth…

While I would advise against open sourcing the core of the game, opening the client api may be a good idea - perhaps others can write clients for it, but there may be issuing around people making bots to cheat the game.
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