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Elements of AI course to be made available in all EU languages

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Elements of AI was created as a collaboration by University of Helsinki, the Finnish government and Reactor Innovations, a software consultancy. It was well received by the Finnish general populace. The Finnish government currently acts as the EU presidency, and decided to open access to all Europeans.

The work done by them has been incredible. Their course on OO with Java was a lifesaver as a student, helping me with a lot of concepts and filling the gaps, to start working as a SE. While I didn't have the time to complete it, their fullstack course seems also very good, has someone completed it that can share their experience?.

The basic programming course I & II in University of Helsinki were in my opinion the best courses of the whole CS degree. And by "them" I think you are referring to the people who made that particular course, the folks at RAGE research group, led by Arto Hellas and Matti Luukkainen :). Great people, and really done great things for the quality of CS education in I'd say Finland in general.

Haven't done the full-stack course but it seemed ok, it irks me a little bit that it's still in JavaScript but oh well, you can't have it all.

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Well.. it is nice, I guess, but really dumbed down version in my opinion to actually be of practical use. Sure it's great publicity for Reaktor and Finland and whatnot, but I'm dubious of its actual benefits. Teaching basic statistics would be much more useful than "AI", but I guess it lacks the hype factor so marketing-wise it wouldn't just be as cool. It's as if there wasn't enough of snake oil salesman promoting t…

being AI is a way for ML startups to get triple the seed capital. Nothing more.

I would argue against this course having no benefits. There is a huge disconnect between what the reality of the near-future in tech is and what the media mis-represent it to be, often fuelled by interviews and quotes from the people directly benefiting from stoking the fire.

The general populace being much closer to a position to understand that it's actually largely unrealistic or nonsense is the right way to go about bridging the gap between the "tech class" and your average lay person.

I definitely agree that society in general would be better if people had better grasp of statistics and how they are manipulated and mis-represented to them, but there are so many interest areas that people would be better off for having some understanding of that I don't think any one can be discredited just because it's not one of the others.

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The work done by them has been incredible. Their course on OO with Java was a lifesaver as a student, helping me with a lot of concepts and filling the gaps, to start working as a SE. While I didn't have the time to complete it, their fullstack course seems also very good, has someone completed it that can share their experience?.

Do you have links that you can share to these courses?

https://fullstackopen.com/en/ https://www.mooc.fi/en/#courses

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Kind of off-putting... EU only, really? Also "English (Ireland)" heh For everyone else, use a VPN, I doubt they check anything.

Alot of Euronet ATMs in Ireland now say English with the tricolour beside it one of the unintended side affects of Brexit.

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I wonder if there is a rationale for this particularly strange selection of languages. They propose, for example, Irish (Gaelic), which is the native language of about 80.000 european citizens and is understood by about a million. Yet they do not propose Catalan, which is the native language of 4.1 million and understood by about ten million.

As a staunch partisan for the unity of the EU, and native Catalan speaker, I cannot but feel dismay about this continuous lack of tact from my institutions. I know this is due to ignorance more than malice, but it really looks as if the institutions are purposely shadowing our very existence.

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startup land is silicon valley, usually targeting the US. An AI course targeted at Europe should at least include German, French, Spanish, etc.

Why? Sure, it would be nice with more languages, but if someone from germany/france/spain want's to learn study AI, isn't it probable that they are used to reading english anyway?

You would think that, but I've seen Germans with a PhD that don't speak English. Once a language is large enough, most things get translated into that language (as there is a market for it). Anyway, German and French are large enough, Dutch isn't.

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I wonder if there is a rationale for this particularly strange selection of languages. They propose, for example, Irish (Gaelic), which is the native language of about 80.000 european citizens and is understood by about a million. Yet they do not propose Catalan, which is the native language of 4.1 million and understood by about ten million. As a staunch partisan for the unity of the EU, and native Catalan speaker,…

I could be mistaken, but it seems like they translated it in EU countries official languages, which is why Irish is present but not Catalan.
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