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Re: Yoast SEO plugin for WordPress injects Black Friday adverts without permission

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post #52

Perhaps Yoast thought they were cleaver. I hope someone reads this who works there. Because of "this", and as a precaution for further abuse one of my agencies removed Yoast SEO from over 2000 Wordpress-sites last week. Update: Just found out that Yoast CEO is a woman and apologize with GIF:s on Twitter. Awaiting my ban and #forevershame.

Which SEO plugin did your agency go with?

Re: Yoast SEO plugin for WordPress injects Black Friday adverts without permission

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Well, people need to learn not to depend on redundant Wordpress plugins. The plugin-landscape in Wordpress is plagued by bugs and ads, some spamming you to update or pay for a premium version. That is not something you would accept for professional CMS solutions. If you consider yourself knowledgeable in SEO, then learn to walk the talk and stop relying on phony third-party plugins! SEO is such a small part of owning…

Do you do actual WP development? How many clients do you have? How much Yoast functionality does your plugin cover?

There are certain plugins that deliver so much value that developing and maintaining them yourself is nonsense for most devs out there. Unless your agency manages thousands of plugins and you have some very specific needs, you don't need to re-implement everything from scratch. Even then, it's probably far cheaper and easier to re-use their GPL code as the basis for a less bloated plugin rather.

Re: Yoast SEO plugin for WordPress injects Black Friday adverts without permission

#64
post #39

Let's get a few things right since the link is misleading. - It was an upsell to the Pro version of free plugin. Not some random ad spam. - The ad was an admin notice - which appear in WordPress on top of every page in the backend Admin Area in what's generally the notification area. - It's free, GPL, and open source - you know, "No Warranties" and all that. Grayhat, and not something you should ever do. But not as n…

1. It goes directly against the WordPress Detailed Plugin Guidelines to both upsell, and to hijack the admin dashboard [0]. 2. If the ad was an admin notice, it didn't look like one. It's a banner image with an outbound tracking link [1]. [0] https://developer.wordpress.org/plugins/wordpress-org/detail... [1] https://imgur.com/a/oN7ZFRU

It goes directly against the WordPress Detailed Plugin Guidelines to both upsell, and to hijack the admin dashboard [0].

Wow. When I was playing with WP I saw this a ton. It was so annoying that I would have to make a point of disabling the phone line home.

Re: Yoast SEO plugin for WordPress injects Black Friday adverts without permission

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post #39

Let's get a few things right since the link is misleading. - It was an upsell to the Pro version of free plugin. Not some random ad spam. - The ad was an admin notice - which appear in WordPress on top of every page in the backend Admin Area in what's generally the notification area. - It's free, GPL, and open source - you know, "No Warranties" and all that. Grayhat, and not something you should ever do. But not as n…

As someone who has contracted with a bunch of agencies and contractors for Wordpress sites, I have paid for such retainers even though automatic updates are on. I want automatic updates on; its better for security. And I want the folks who built the sites available on short notice, so if automatic updates break something, I can get it fixed quickly without trying to do a contract with some random WP dev on short noti…

Updates are different from upgrades, though. But if you are saying that we should pay for premium (in order to get the updates, which you are saying we should stay on top of), then I get what you're saying.

Re: Yoast SEO plugin for WordPress injects Black Friday adverts without permission

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When people rip on WordPress development this is the sorta crap they're talking about. In many ecosystems this would warrant the plugin getting pulled from the ecosystem but WP just lets it fly.

I think a lot of the rip is from Wordpress generally being insecure. You can have it locally and treat it like Jekyll and have your json sent to git and published to something like Netify.

Re: Yoast SEO plugin for WordPress injects Black Friday adverts without permission

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post #55

When people rip on WordPress development this is the sorta crap they're talking about. In many ecosystems this would warrant the plugin getting pulled from the ecosystem but WP just lets it fly.

A lot of people complain how apple app store removes apps that Apple doesn't like. Or how Firefox no longer allows users to provide add-ons that are not through the Firefox store. That and other walled gardens make the the new tech world much less free and much more dependent on tech giants. I personally would prefer WordPress to allow whoever wants to make an app and give the users the responsibility to choose what…

I agree and disagree all at the same time ha...

> I personally would prefer WordPress to allow whoever wants to make an app and give the users the responsibility to choose what to add and what not

I'm totally with you but that assumes that WP devs have the responsibility to make responsible decisions. The range of skill for a typical WP dev is outstanding, where on one end you have people who can't write a for loop adopting the "dev" title, and on the other end you have skilled engineers.

I've seen WAY too many people call themselves "devs" when all they do is try to install plugins to piece together a website. In relation to Apple and FF - average users are not savvy at all and have been shielded from the nuts-and-bolts decisions that we make on a daily basis. Trusting them with the responsibility to make good decisions is precarious.

Re: Yoast SEO plugin for WordPress injects Black Friday adverts without permission

#68

When people rip on WordPress development this is the sorta crap they're talking about. In many ecosystems this would warrant the plugin getting pulled from the ecosystem but WP just lets it fly.

I think a lot of the rip is from Wordpress generally being insecure. You can have it locally and treat it like Jekyll and have your json sent to git and published to something like Netify.

> I think a lot of the rip is from WordPress generally being insecure.

That too - I put adware on my wp-admin pages in the same boat.

I've seen the JSON publishing route and I'm not 100% impressed with how it operates. In most WP situations you want to give people who are non-devs the capability to manage content which local setups like this don't accommodate well.

Re: Yoast SEO plugin for WordPress injects Black Friday adverts without permission

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post #21

The Yoast CEO Marieke van de Rakt responded on Twitter: > That BlackFridayBanner was not the best idea. We’re truly sorry for the annoyance and difficulties it may have caused. We did not think this through properly. If you want, you can update to a new version of our plugin without that banner. #blackfriday #neveragain #apologies"[1] > I OK'd this. I am the CEO. And I made a big mistake. I am sorry. [2] [1] https://…

> "Truly sorry" I'd prefer it if CEOs would rather say "we got too greedy and clearly the market didn't like it" rather than disingenuous apologies.

An "I'm sorry" and "it was my call" are much more honest than the usual legal-approved CEO-speak that doesn't admit any fault, or justifies it with an un-provable statement like "many users have asked for this feature"

Re: Yoast SEO plugin for WordPress injects Black Friday adverts without permission

#70

When people rip on WordPress development this is the sorta crap they're talking about. In many ecosystems this would warrant the plugin getting pulled from the ecosystem but WP just lets it fly.

I for one am glad that Wordpress doesn't behave like the App Store, yanking apps willy-nilly with no warning, and little recourse.

Wordpress development is for developers, not consumers. They don't require the same level of hand-holding. When things like this occur, devs can make the choice to remove the plugin on sites they maintain.

For prospective users, every plugin page has a "reviews" section that tells them exactly if the plugin does anything shady. Yoast isn't a monopoly and thanks to how the plugin ecosystem has evolved over time, WP devs usually have a second or third option to go with, should their #1 pick no longer meet their needs.

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