Live data from Hacker News

Developer Roadmaps

roadmap.sh

61–70 of 139 posts

Re: Developer Roadmaps

#61
post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Plenty of digital agencies do frontend work across multiple delivery platform formats

I don’t doubt that. But, if they advertise a need for “front end developers”, that would strongly imply web developers. I would definitely be surprised if they advertised a position for a “front end developer”, I applied and during the interview they asked questions about Windows Forms development.

Be prepared to be surprised then.

Re: Developer Roadmaps

#62

Hey guys, I am the person behind this website. Please know that it is still in progress. I wanted the initial version out so it is just the "roadmap" images for now. However, I am working on making these roadmaps more accessible for the beginners and easier to contribute to. In the list of things planned for the coming week is the textual version for each with different sections (job-ready, intermediate, advanced, ov…

Instead of learning JavaScript frameworks, isn't it better to advise people to learn and master JavaScript itself? I feel learning HTTP, HTTPS, HTML, CSS, and JavaScript inside-out will benefit someone than to try to learn a framework that will disappear very soon. When you know undelying technologies, it is easier to learn new frameworks because they will always be based on underlying technologies.

Re: Developer Roadmaps

#63
post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What exactly qualifies as a web technology? Isn't anything on an IP address a web technology?

Only if it’s also using the Web.

Disagree. Electron apps are built w/ web tech regardless of how they're distributed or connected at runtime.

Re: Developer Roadmaps

#64
post #45
post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Frontend roadmap completly ignores everything that isn't a Web browser. So no Qt, wxWidgets, Android, iOS, WPF, Forms, UWP, WinUI, GNOME, KDE, ...

Mobile and Desktop are different beasts from Web Frontend and require different (although related) skillsets.

It is still frontend nonetheless.

Re: Developer Roadmaps

#65
post #60

These lists are so depressing. Is there any other career where people are expected to know 100 things just to be an employee at the bottom of the food chain? I won't be surprised if it is harder to be a Full Stack Developer than to be a CEO of a multi-national corporation. Looks like we are pushing everything to Developers. Developers of the future are going to need a fulltime pyschologist to cope with this ever incr…

Doctors, lawyers, and real engineers at least have similar or more broad domains they must be experts in, or people die.

CEO is a hard role not because of domain area but because of risk and uncertainty, both of which tend to be low when you're "at the bottom of the food chain."

Re: Developer Roadmaps

#66
I find the back end engineer roadmap lacking a few critical items that seem to be in the devops section (granted, everyone needs devops chops). Metrics, monitoring, alerting, and networks (tcp, http, grpc, sockets), and basic distributed systems.

Re: Developer Roadmaps

#67
post #65
post #60

These lists are so depressing. Is there any other career where people are expected to know 100 things just to be an employee at the bottom of the food chain? I won't be surprised if it is harder to be a Full Stack Developer than to be a CEO of a multi-national corporation. Looks like we are pushing everything to Developers. Developers of the future are going to need a fulltime pyschologist to cope with this ever incr…

Doctors, lawyers, and real engineers at least have similar or more broad domains they must be experts in, or people die. CEO is a hard role not because of domain area but because of risk and uncertainty, both of which tend to be low when you're "at the bottom of the food chain."

All doctors, lawyers and real engineers I know only focus on one aspect. They are specialists. I know lawyers who specialises in rape cases, conveyancing, ligitation, but I have never met a lwayer who is expected to solve a rape case today and register a bond tomorrow. Same with doctors. They specialise and only focus on one domain. I was talking about skills when I included CEO, not about risk. When there is lots of money involved, almost everyone will accept to assume that risk and collect rewards.

Re: Developer Roadmaps

#68
post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don’t doubt that. But, if they advertise a need for “front end developers”, that would strongly imply web developers. I would definitely be surprised if they advertised a position for a “front end developer”, I applied and during the interview they asked questions about Windows Forms development.

Be prepared to be surprised then.

Trust me, I’ve been on plenty of successful interviews. Not once have they wanted a “full stack developer” or a front end developer that could do Windows Forms.

I’m not saying that no one wants desktop developers - they just don’t refer to them as “front end” developers.

Windows Forms or any windows desktop development was already losing favor when I was looking for a job in 2008 after being at one company for almost a decade.

Now in 2019, any developer who cares about his career will run screaming the other way if a company even mentions that they are doing desktop software unless they can get a job with Microsoft or Adobe.

Re: Developer Roadmaps

#69
post #60

These lists are so depressing. Is there any other career where people are expected to know 100 things just to be an employee at the bottom of the food chain? I won't be surprised if it is harder to be a Full Stack Developer than to be a CEO of a multi-national corporation. Looks like we are pushing everything to Developers. Developers of the future are going to need a fulltime pyschologist to cope with this ever incr…

The key issue especially in the front-end roadmap is how the scale is not taken into account. Expecting all front end developers to use the same stack from small operations to Facebook or Google scale is irrational, yet for a lot of reasons it is standard practice. I understand how it gives a feeling of playing in the same court, but from an engineering point of view it’s useless complexity in a lot of projects.

Edit: For example I make a living doing web development and rarely using a framework or a package manager in my projects. Knowing their value sure helps in a CTO like role, but you can deliver real value and state of the art websites and apps without them.

Post reply on HN