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Re: 16-inch MacBook Pro

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Post by dashwav »

throwanem wrote: post #17

I'm astonished and pleased to see they walked back the two worst things about the original Touch Bar MBPs - the lack of a physical Escape key, and the full-size left and right arrow keys. The lack of physical function keys remains regrettable, and the Touch Bar is still no worthy substitute, but perhaps this is a sign that Apple is finally interested in listening to feedback from its long-term customer base, even if…

The escape key will be especially welcome by me, as I found the touchbar exceptionally hard to deal with, and I would often have to hit it three or four times to get vim to exit insert mode. I actually didn't have much trouble with the arrow keys, despite all the negative feedback I saw for them online.

Hopefully this trend continues and they can iterate on this model even further.

Re: 16-inch MacBook Pro

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Post by cmaggard »

wiredfool wrote: post #47
spurgu wrote: post #32

For those of you mentioning the esc key, I suggest mapping capslock to esc, I've been doing that for years now (both Linux and Mac) and it's awesome. Except when you're using someone else's computer and constantly turn capslock on and off... Edit: You can do this natively since Mojave(?) in the keyboard settings without having to resort to something like Karabiner.

Unless that’s where you’ve already remapped ctrl.

Why not both? My QMK mechanical keyboards (and, I just noticed, Karabiner Elements) can support turning Caps Lock into Ctrl+KEY if pressed with something else, and ESC if pressed by itself. Best of all possible worlds.

Re: 16-inch MacBook Pro

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Post by seanwilson »

I'm not against spending money on essential tools of the trade that you keep for years but carrying around a super expensive laptop makes me feel really nervous e.g. it could get stolen, dropped, get wet in the rain, drinks spilt on it.

When I don't need the extra power, I think I'd rather travel with an easy to replace $900 laptop than a $3,000 one for ease of mind.

Re: 16-inch MacBook Pro

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Post by gigatexal »

htk wrote: post #50
throwanem wrote: post #17

I'm astonished and pleased to see they walked back the two worst things about the original Touch Bar MBPs - the lack of a physical Escape key, and the full-size left and right arrow keys. The lack of physical function keys remains regrettable, and the Touch Bar is still no worthy substitute, but perhaps this is a sign that Apple is finally interested in listening to feedback from its long-term customer base, even if…

I feel the same. The stubbornness of Apple that was so frustrating is a bit more flexible now, paying attention to "subtle" feedback like the arrow key's sizes.

We devs are so conservative. It's ridiculous. Nobody allows Apple to innovate.

Re: 16-inch MacBook Pro

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Post by nottorp »

As a person burned by the "improved" 2018 keyboard, I'd wait a couple months to see how sensitive to dust this one is.

It's not the typing experience that was the main problem with the previous keyboard, it was that you couldn't use the laptop outdoors...

Re: 16-inch MacBook Pro

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Post by 8draco8 »

Ecco wrote: post #12

I was so hoping for a constant bezel width. Unfortunately the top bezel is still a lot larger than the side ones. I know it's because of the camera, but that makes for an awkward looking device…

Can you elaborate on why constant bezel width is so important? Most devices (phones, tablets, TVs, laptops) don't have constant bezel width.
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