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Google and Ambient Computing

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Re: Google and Ambient Computing

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https://killedbygoogle.com/ I am rather curious about Stradia's longevity.

Stadia will be a free gaming service next year. If they launch a free to play game, people will switch internet provider for it.

> people will switch internet provider for it.

Ha-ha, I wish I could switch over from Comcast.

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Isn't it time that Google grows up and becomes a true tech company? I consider products containing adware to be "half-broken" and I don't understand how Google engineers can feel proud of their work. As an engineer I want my work to be paid for because my users like my products, and I certainly wouldn't want any of my work to be used to serve anyone other than my users.

Do you have an example of a “true tech company”?

AWS is the most true tech company out there I think, I wish there were a way for me to invest in it outside of the Amazon borg cube media conglomerate trying to fight Disney.

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Isn't it time that Google grows up and becomes a true tech company? I consider products containing adware to be "half-broken" and I don't understand how Google engineers can feel proud of their work. As an engineer I want my work to be paid for because my users like my products, and I certainly wouldn't want any of my work to be used to serve anyone other than my users.

Do you have an example of a “true tech company”?

Oracle fits this description nicely. :)

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A handful of oligopolies coercing me to use overcomplicated always-connected gadgets that are orchestrated by "AI" that I don't control, can't train, and whose main objective is to manipulate my behavior and siphon as much of my private info to its corporate master as possible. All of this to solve "problems" that I never had, while a choir of corporate shills drones on and on that problems I actually have are not re…

Isn't it time that Google grows up and becomes a true tech company? I consider products containing adware to be "half-broken" and I don't understand how Google engineers can feel proud of their work. As an engineer I want my work to be paid for because my users like my products, and I certainly wouldn't want any of my work to be used to serve anyone other than my users.

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People really hate Google here. Look at this thread and the other about Soli. Not a single positive comment about Google. No wonder Google engineers have stopped posting on HN. Maybe Google truly is evil but I fail to see it personally.

This is so true. Half of these are people openly claiming they hate it because they couldn't get in.

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Every time something like this comes up, I imagine a bunch of giddy "world-changers" sitting behind Mac Pros with Retina displays and T3 lines, building something that works great under those conditions, and then convincing each other that they've helped people over $16 microbrews. I know this is a caricature but it's how I get my kicks. To wit, the conditions that the engineers inhabit in their lives has basically z…

Most tech-company engineers have exactly the same infrastructure at home as everybody else. Comcast and the like, also mad about data caps, latency and DNS hijacking.

Most tech-company engineers don't live in bad parts of town nor in the countryside, so I have a hard time believing that.

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I don't like the always-on surveillance either. But if people choose these products because the convenience is worth it in their estimation, revealed preferences and all that. Maybe this suggests a counter-product? An offline, all data is local, product opportunity. Who will build it?

> But if people choose these products because the convenience is worth it in their estimation, revealed preferences and all that. "is worth it" requires people to be fully aware of what's going on. I've described what some of these devices are doing based on product announcements, patents, investigative news stories, and that sort of thing. I've had numerous people tell me that I'm wrong. That they don't believe comp…

>This has caused me to come to the conclusion that people aren't aware of the trade-offs or what is going on.

But what exactly is going on? It's not like google going to blackmail you for 10K USD in cash, single payment please, once it will learn that you are going to the same pub and spend 2 hours there daily, "or we will let your boss know".

It will show you more relevant ads, right. But do you really expect an average person to be scared by this?

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as someone who switched to an iphone yesterday after having using google flagship models since the nexus one, i agree that this is an important direction for google's product strategy, but i think they're playing catch up from far behind. i remarked to my wife last night that the biggest difference in the ux between the two was that my android was always a phone, and this iphone has become a platform/ux that's larger…

Assistant is so far ahead.

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https://killedbygoogle.com/ I am rather curious about Stradia's longevity.

Stadia will be a free gaming service next year. If they launch a free to play game, people will switch internet provider for it.

I think anyone that would and more importantly can switch to better internet for a free to play game already have.

In many places in the US people already have the best internet that can be provided to their home, and it's not good enough.

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