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Re: Instagram Threatened Removal of Verified Status for Posting Snapchat Content

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Post by jasonlotito »

cdelsolar wrote: post #39
jstanley wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Apologies to those of a sensitive nature for the graphicness (is that a word?) of the headline. However, it is true. The meaning of this excerpt would be exactly the same if the word "but" were used instead of "however" (which is, I suspect, why it was worded in this clumsy way - to avoid "but"). Are we to conclude that the author doesn't actually give a shit about the "graphicness" of the headline?

what?

The article is titled "Everything before ‘BUT’ is Bullshit." Basically, if you say but, whatever preceded it is bullshit.

It calls people out for using it.

So, when the author writes: "Apologies to those of a sensitive nature for the graphicness (is that a word?) of the headline. However, it is true.", it shows they aren't actually apologizing. Why? Because the word "however" could be changed with "but" and it would effectively be the same thing.

Basically, that statement in the article is, according to the article, bullshit and combative.

Re: Instagram Threatened Removal of Verified Status for Posting Snapchat Content

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Post by lonelappde »

echelon wrote: post #32
sailfast wrote: post #23

Removing links to other platforms is anti-competitive full stop. Threatening de-verification due to links is even worse. This is the behavior of monopolists. The FTC and existing anti-trust organizations would do well to return to their jobs and take a look at these practices broadly across the tech industry.

Absolutely! I'm surprised you're the first one to call this out. In my mind this is how these companies see their platforms plucked from their hands and spun off as independent companies. This is incredibly unfair to users. It's a sign that these platforms have become a mafia protection racket. It's not just as if they're saying "If you consider the competition, you'll lose everything." They're actually doing this. W…

The very first sentence of the OP article calls this out.

Re: Instagram Threatened Removal of Verified Status for Posting Snapchat Content

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Post by lonelappde »

chii wrote: post #28
im3w1l wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Call me paranoid but it seems increasingly that Big Tech uses all their avenues to force conformity. The message is that if you don't do what we want, bad things start happening. It can happen anytime anywhere and you wont necessarily know why. It's about encouraging a helpless, submissive, fearful mentality. Maybe they'll no longer show you as verified. Maybe your posts will be demoted a bit in the feed. Maybe you n…

> it seems increasingly that Big Tech uses all their avenues to force conformity. because these big tech companies are all dependent on advertising revenue, and thus converge to advertiser friendly behaviour.

Nothing much to do with ads in this case. If Insta cost money to use, Insta would still not want people leaving for Snap.

Re: Instagram Threatened Removal of Verified Status for Posting Snapchat Content

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Post by apostacy »

nilkn wrote: post #56
sschueller wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Youtube recently decided to change their requirements to become verified. They emailed existing verified users that they no longer meet these requirements and therefore will loose the "verified" status. Completely insane.

For what it’s worth, my understanding is they were actually trying to fix the situation but users conceptualize being “verified” as a sign of status and so got upset. A lot of YouTubers are currently “verified” for whom there is no risk of mistaking them for a clone account. The only real point is for YouTube to verify the channels of actual celebrities who will get lots of copycats and are known off the platform.

I think the benefit of verifying someone nobody has heard of is that you know that they have submitted identification documents to YouTube, and are less likely to be scamming you, and could be sued.

I would certainly trust a verified user more for that reason.

Re: Instagram Threatened Removal of Verified Status for Posting Snapchat Content

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Post by dwild »

sschueller wrote: post #26
mc32 wrote: post #7

This “verified” nonsense is silly. Twitter knew who Assange was but refused to “verify” him. They should change what they call verified to another label like “goodie two-shoes” instead. As it is is a complete misnomer. It’s basically used to get users to behave a certain way and if they don’t conform they don’t get verified or if they are verified it gets revoked.

Youtube recently decided to change their requirements to become verified. They emailed existing verified users that they no longer meet these requirements and therefore will loose the "verified" status. Completely insane.

What have they done wrong?

I searched and seems like the previous politic was to simply give the verified status if you reached 100k subscribers without any others verification. How is that verified in any way? Is that verification was merely to state that at least 100k people clicked a button? That would makes it a pretty bad verified status and pretty far from what anyone may expect it to verify. Considering Youtube only remove bots from time to time, it may not even be true.

They were never verified in the first place, removing them makes sense.

Re: Instagram Threatened Removal of Verified Status for Posting Snapchat Content

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Post by pulse7 »

danShumway wrote: post #59

> Links asking someone to add you on another service aren’t supported on Instagram That's some weasel-wording right there. "Not supported" makes it sound like this is a feature they'd need to code that they haven't gotten around to yet. It's not -- they needed to take the time to explicitly block something that would otherwise work by default. Phrasing it as "Links asking someone to add you on another service are not…

...and then when users start to put up such links they show you the real meaning of the phrase. At first sight it is "everything is allowed, just some things are not supported (yet)", but the real meaning is "linking to competitors is not allowed".

Re: Instagram Threatened Removal of Verified Status for Posting Snapchat Content

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Post by apostacy »

vortico wrote: post #9
mc32 wrote: post #7

This “verified” nonsense is silly. Twitter knew who Assange was but refused to “verify” him. They should change what they call verified to another label like “goodie two-shoes” instead. As it is is a complete misnomer. It’s basically used to get users to behave a certain way and if they don’t conform they don’t get verified or if they are verified it gets revoked.

When will Twitter re-open verifying? It's been closed for 2 years...

Crummy Buzzfeed content drones with 5000 followers are getting verified.

Verification ticks are just a badge of being well connected, and approved. And having your tick removed is a way of saying that you have stepped out of line.

Re: Instagram Threatened Removal of Verified Status for Posting Snapchat Content

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Post by KoftaBob »

mc32 wrote: post #7

This “verified” nonsense is silly. Twitter knew who Assange was but refused to “verify” him. They should change what they call verified to another label like “goodie two-shoes” instead. As it is is a complete misnomer. It’s basically used to get users to behave a certain way and if they don’t conform they don’t get verified or if they are verified it gets revoked.

"verified" has essentially become the social media equivalent of airline companies' "preferred members".
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