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Re: ColorBox by Lyft Design

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An interesting issue is that it's currently impossible to pick the direction of the hue rotation, so if your start and end colors are one opposite sides of the hue circle this tool will go "the long way around". Great for rainbows, not so great if you want to go from orange to purple over red.

This is why I much prefer the Lab color space over HSV or HSL— it's much better suited to interpolation and mixing. The critical properties are: * It's a vector space, so mixing colors means mathematically mixing the components. There is no polar angle that can "go around the wrong way", or suddenly cause the interpolation to change when one color coordinate crosses zero degrees. * It's perceptually uniform, so that…

As an artist and designer I somehow can't get over the complementary hues in the Lab color space, NCS complementaries fit much better visually.

The main advantage of mathematically derived and absolutete color models like Lab is that they can't be protected by copyright. There is an intiative that tries to be an alternative to Pantone in that market: https://www.freiefarbe.de/en/

There's an also an interesting lecture on YT: https://youtube.com/watch?v=JAR6zDkboJU

Here some more infor about color circles and systems: https://www.handprint.com/HP/WCL/vismixmap.html

Re: ColorBox by Lyft Design

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is why I much prefer the Lab color space over HSV or HSL— it's much better suited to interpolation and mixing. The critical properties are: * It's a vector space, so mixing colors means mathematically mixing the components. There is no polar angle that can "go around the wrong way", or suddenly cause the interpolation to change when one color coordinate crosses zero degrees. * It's perceptually uniform, so that…

Thanks for such a terrific, well-informed and helpful comment! It's a strong reminder how unbelievably complex "color" is.

It's just an infinite-dimensional vector space ;-)

Re: ColorBox by Lyft Design

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is why I much prefer the Lab color space over HSV or HSL— it's much better suited to interpolation and mixing. The critical properties are: * It's a vector space, so mixing colors means mathematically mixing the components. There is no polar angle that can "go around the wrong way", or suddenly cause the interpolation to change when one color coordinate crosses zero degrees. * It's perceptually uniform, so that…

As an artist and designer I somehow can't get over the complementary hues in the Lab color space, NCS complementaries fit much better visually. The main advantage of mathematically derived and absolutete color models like Lab is that they can't be protected by copyright. There is an intiative that tries to be an alternative to Pantone in that market: https://www.freiefarbe.de/en/ There's an also an interesting lectur…

Lab isn't the only perceptually uniform color space out there, have you tried any others?

Jab is a fairly new one, maybe it works better for you:

https://observablehq.com/@jrus/jzazbz

Re: ColorBox by Lyft Design

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As a non-designer, I am finding it easier and easier to get something professional looking up. Couple this with Material-UI and a solid looking template and you could have a beautiful, custom landing page up a day. There are obviously UX and other issues that I struggle to excel at, but from a simple, consumer-facing perspective, I see UI getting more and more manageable.

I'm in the same boat. I struggle hard with the UX, but I'm amazed that with modern tools I can create a rudimentary, but clean design in Sketch, code it, and manage the infrastructure behind it. Even 10 years ago, these were 3 to 5 completely distinct skillsets (designer, frontend, backend, infrastructure, DBA).

The divide between these roles you mentioned has gotten bigger over time in my opinion. It's maybe easier nowadays to put together an okay-looking proof-of-concept app, but when getting into large apps and high traffic, the stack has gotten more complicated to do right. You don't just roll out server-rendered MVC app, but need front-end with 3 layouts for different devices and state management more complex than on the back-end. Or maybe that's just my feeling.

Re: ColorBox by Lyft Design

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post #49

An interesting issue is that it's currently impossible to pick the direction of the hue rotation, so if your start and end colors are one opposite sides of the hue circle this tool will go "the long way around". Great for rainbows, not so great if you want to go from orange to purple over red.

This is why I much prefer the Lab color space over HSV or HSL— it's much better suited to interpolation and mixing. The critical properties are: * It's a vector space, so mixing colors means mathematically mixing the components. There is no polar angle that can "go around the wrong way", or suddenly cause the interpolation to change when one color coordinate crosses zero degrees. * It's perceptually uniform, so that…

But is a perceptual colorspace "natural"? A physics-based vectorspace is the most natural thing. Adding vectors in a perception based vectorspace seems unnatural to me.

Re: ColorBox by Lyft Design

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post #67
post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is why I much prefer the Lab color space over HSV or HSL— it's much better suited to interpolation and mixing. The critical properties are: * It's a vector space, so mixing colors means mathematically mixing the components. There is no polar angle that can "go around the wrong way", or suddenly cause the interpolation to change when one color coordinate crosses zero degrees. * It's perceptually uniform, so that…

But is a perceptual colorspace "natural"? A physics-based vectorspace is the most natural thing. Adding vectors in a perception based vectorspace seems unnatural to me.

Lab is not energy linear, and if you're doing rendering/illumination, you won't want to use Lab (unless you're deliberately trying to stylize). It is designed to be a good model of human color perception, not the physics of light.

Lab color space is good for mixing colors in a way that behaves intuitively. E.g. "what color is 'halfway between' these two other colors?", mixing "paint" digitally, producing pleasing gradients, picking colors or creating palettes.

Re: ColorBox by Lyft Design

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post #17

I'm no designer, but I assume this is not a color palette generator, right? It's more of a "shade generator" that creates all the various shades of a single color? Update: After playing some more, it does in fact seem like you can generate pallets by adjusting the start and end hue. That being said, I have no idea how colors work. For example, I assume I can't just take 3 arbitrary colors from this tool and stick the…

> That being said, I have no idea how colors work.

This is me.

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