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Tom Delonge’s UFO Research Center Is Making Politicians Demand Answers

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Re: Tom Delonge’s UFO Research Center Is Making Politicians Demand Answers

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I reckon it's misdirection. "We'll say it's a UFO, but really it's a hypersonic plane in development." Just like the SR71 had a cover story during its development phase. "The wreckage was recovered in two days, and persons at the scene were identified and requested to sign secrecy agreements. A cover story for the press described the accident as occurring to a F-105, and it is still listed in this way on official rec…

Its probably a system for "jamming" FLIR sensors an allowing the attacker to project targets onto the system. The pilots were guinea pigs. Which is made more plausible by the fact that the USS Princeton asked the Nimitz pilots first if they were armed, and only after they informed the Princeton that they were not that they were given the orders to investigate. There probably was a real object -- since one was sighted…

If that's the case, why not read the pilots into the test, even at a summary level?

If the Navy had told the pilots, "You just experienced an advanced technology test. Nothing to worry about" then they would have undoubtedly kept their mouths shut and not talked to the media.

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There's enough anecdotal material available now that I don't consider myself a scoffer. I'm curious about UFOs and don't really know what to think about them. Also, several politicians have made curious statements about 'releasing information to the public'. If there was just nothing there, I don't think they'd be talking about it. Looking forward to the day (I think) when we all know what's out there.

Historically UFO sightings spike at times of high and amorphous cultural anxiety. Sometimes they turn out to be radar quirks, or experimental aircraft, or nothing at all. But if anything, given the culture, I’m surprised we don’t see more UFOs.

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I was a skeptic of a lot of things until I saw some flying orbs around Mount Shasta, California last October. I saw similar moving orbs again in upstate NY this year on two occasions. I don't know what I saw but they were not weather balloons, satellites, planes, planets, stars, or meteors. Anyone here ever see something similar?

We live in an age where nearly everyone has a smartphone capable of recording video, satellites record the earth, and ground cameras record the sky. You either have to believe there is some massive conspiracy to cover the truth, or you are seeing some mundane phenomenon for which you just don't have the explanation available to you.

It's a self-fulfilling prophecy, people will see what they want to see. I just asked out of curiosity. I don't care to be validated as an experiencer or as a skeptic. I happen to live on this planet and saw something strange that my knowledge of nature or astronomy could not explain. I don't know what I saw, I'm gonna leave it at that. My original question has been answered, other people in this community have seen 'odd moving orbs' and no one knows what they are.

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White-colored, orb-shaped. They moved around in a non-linear fashion at will, they were intelligently operated. One of them disappeared in a flash... Strange thing was during encounter #2, they appeared in the spot in the sky 2 nights in a row.

And too big to be laser pointers?

Yes, I'd say so. I'm gonna accept it as a mystery and leave it at that. It's not of critical importance for me to find out what I saw to be honest, I'm just curious about it.

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Anyone in this thread familiar with Electronic Warfare? Specifically, the EW arms race between a guided missile's "eyes", and decoy signals created by things that don't want to get hit by said missiles? (Or, better yet, between large-scale MIRV missiles, that don't want their warheads to get hit by interceptor systems, and the sensors on those interceptor counter-missiles. In that case, you'd call these techniques ht…

Yeah, I watched Spider-Man:Far From Home as well.

Seriously though, the pilots reported visual sighting as well. Projecting a hologram is one thing, projecting one while flying at 800km/hr is another.

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Planes have blinking lights, right? These had none of those. They moved around in a non-linear fashion at will, they were intelligently operated. One of them disappeared in a flash... All the people there with me ruled out all the logical possibilities too, most of them were skeptics (including myself) before we saw them. We still joke about the ordeal when we see each other.

> Planes have blinking lights, right? Not necessarily - they can be turned off, non-functional, or drowned out by a brighter light like the landing lights from a distance. > One of them disappeared in a flash... Or someone flipped the landing lights switch. I saw a C-17 at night while staying near Fort Drum that I was completely baffled by until it got close enough to properly make out. Had it stayed away, I'd have h…

There were two of them next to each other. Is that common at all?

Does 'formation flying' involve craft flying around in random non-linear fashion?

There was a bunch of us and we discussed it for awhile, aircraft is the first thing we jumped to...

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Its probably a system for "jamming" FLIR sensors an allowing the attacker to project targets onto the system. The pilots were guinea pigs. Which is made more plausible by the fact that the USS Princeton asked the Nimitz pilots first if they were armed, and only after they informed the Princeton that they were not that they were given the orders to investigate. There probably was a real object -- since one was sighted…

That's interesting, but wasn't there also at least one visual sighting accompanying this FLIR stuff?

"There probably was a real object -- since one was sighted but it was a drone with the advanced jamming equipment (that they didn't want to accidentally get shot down)."

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> Planes have blinking lights, right? Not necessarily - they can be turned off, non-functional, or drowned out by a brighter light like the landing lights from a distance. > One of them disappeared in a flash... Or someone flipped the landing lights switch. I saw a C-17 at night while staying near Fort Drum that I was completely baffled by until it got close enough to properly make out. Had it stayed away, I'd have h…

There were two of them next to each other. Is that common at all? Does 'formation flying' involve craft flying around in random non-linear fashion? There was a bunch of us and we discussed it for awhile, aircraft is the first thing we jumped to...

> There were two of them next to each other. Is that common at all?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Formation_flying

That you're asking that question really makes it hard to credit the claim that you successfully ruled out "all the logical possibilities".

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> Does 'formation flying' involve craft flying around in random non-linear fashion?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dogfight

A distantly seen dogfight at night would involve afterburners (bright lights! and they'd wink on/off during maneuvering, when they're turned on/off, or when the plane turns to face towards you instead of away from you) and rapid random non-linear movements as described.

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Does this image [1] from that article purport to depict landing gear down... with afterburners? 1 = https://the-drive.imgix.net/https%3A%2F%2Fs3-us-west-2.amazo...

What's wrong with that? That's how you'd typically take off from a carrier. For example: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Afterburner#/media/File:FA18_o... As long as you don't exceed the max speed for the gear, no problem.

Let's just say that at that attitude and height, it's an unusual configuration.
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