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Too Many Video Streaming Choices May Drive Users Back To Piracy

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Re: Too Many Video Streaming Choices May Drive Users Back To Piracy

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No surprise. Even we (HN) predicted this the moment the first content company withdrew their content from Netflix. Two reasons: 1. People only have so much money. 2. When people compare it to what they used to payit seems unfair. People complain when gas prices increases by a few percent, no wonder they complain when they suddenly have to pay twice or even three times for the same content they used to pay one low mon…

I remember the days (circa 2009/2010) where the main complaint about streaming Netflix was that there was nothing on it compared to the disk collection. When exactly did that change?

There must have been a brief “monopoly period” when Netflix had all of the content, but I don’t remember it.

Re: Too Many Video Streaming Choices May Drive Users Back To Piracy

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Why don't major services (Netflix, Disney, HULU, etc) come together to build a best of breed shared service, that operates vendor-neutrally, and each gets to keep all the profits from people watching their stuff? Each could still have its own promotions, bundles, etc (e.g. pay X more to watch new movies from Disney), but at least the base proposition can have a single subscription price and some pay as you consume mo…

Because no one forced them to :). I think they'll get around to working on that later on, but first they'll ruin the whole streaming space in an attempt to capture all the value they can from their IP directly.

Re: Too Many Video Streaming Choices May Drive Users Back To Piracy

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That the funny thing I have HBO, Hulu, Netflix, Amazon Prime but sometimes it's easier to watch something on a pirate site than searching for which service has what.

I realize this is funny, but doesn't Roku do that for you?

They didn't say anything about having Roku, and from my experience the "search all platforms" tools on streaming devices like Roku and Apple TV leave much to be desired

Re: Too Many Video Streaming Choices May Drive Users Back To Piracy

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Germans/Europeans might feel with me: I had the pleasure of using Sky to watch Game of Thrones and a few movies and it was the most abysmal experience I have ever had.

Your account is an email combined with a 4-digit NUMERIC-ONLY (!) "password" and once you are hyper-securely logged in the amount of usability pain a single piece of software can cause will immediately become apparent.

How can anything paid by a big corporation be anywhere near as bad as the Sky apps is completely beyond me.

Their iOS app is somewhat usable and I was happy I could just cast GoT using my Google Chrome until I noticed that casting can only be done in German. The English original version wasn't available for casting but perfectly accessible on PS4 app, Mac app and web app.

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Why don't major services (Netflix, Disney, HULU, etc) come together to build a best of breed shared service, that operates vendor-neutrally, and each gets to keep all the profits from people watching their stuff? Each could still have its own promotions, bundles, etc (e.g. pay X more to watch new movies from Disney), but at least the base proposition can have a single subscription price and some pay as you consume mo…

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Re: Too Many Video Streaming Choices May Drive Users Back To Piracy

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Most normal middle class people aren’t going to go through the trouble of pirating movies and setting up a Plex server and then worry about setting up their router to get a good connection while they are away from home and even then deal with the abysmally slow upload speed of the typical home network instead of spending $8 a month to just have the convenience of Disney+ to be a glorified babysitter. Depending on t…

Sadly Disney is a lifestyle choice for a lot of people and the passion they have for the brand can be downright cultish and creepy at times. Groups like hardcore Disney fans, R. Kelly fans, and Evangelical Christians all share a very similar devotion and loyalty to their idols.

Tell me more about how R. Kelly and Disney fans are similar. Share your point by point analysis and include examples. Maybe you would like to bring Taylor Swift into the discussion?

Your comment is a poorly disguised insult.

Re: Too Many Video Streaming Choices May Drive Users Back To Piracy

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"May" drive them back? This has already happened in my circles.. People who had cut the cord but all but walked away from casual piracy and signed up for Netflix and HBO (and probably Prime Video because they had Amazon Prime already) are openly talking about the fact they're definitely not signing up for more streaming services, and are seeking out torrenting again for the stuff that's being pulled from Netflix (esp…

I agree. There is definitely a market for a streaming bundling service where you pay for a bundle and get subscribed to multiple services for some monthly fee which would be at a great discount to subscribing separately to each service.

the real question is if it's possible to make the bundle popular without having to discount!

Re: Too Many Video Streaming Choices May Drive Users Back To Piracy

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post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Most normal middle class people aren’t going to go through the trouble of pirating movies and setting up a Plex server and then worry about setting up their router to get a good connection while they are away from home and even then deal with the abysmally slow upload speed of the typical home network instead of spending $8 a month to just have the convenience of Disney+ to be a glorified babysitter. Depending on t…

Although I'd prefer to have everything on Netflix, I'm definitely going to get Disney+. Not a fan of Disney the corporation, but if Disney+ contains everything Star Wars, everything Marvel, everything from Jim Henson, and everything from all their other properties, there's no way I'm going to pay for easy access to that. We don't even watch regular TV anymore at my home. It's either Netflix or Youtube.

There's just so many Star Wars movies, and so many Marvel movies, and while I've seen most in theaters, they are basically juvenile blockbuster cookie cutter crap.

The first 3 star wars films where important for their era, but most of the later ones are just forgettable sci-fi (for non-discerning fans). Not to mention letting down parts of the canon (e.g. the Solo movie, or "Kylo Ren", a hipster/teenage goth abomination that took Darth Vader's iconic status and pissed all over it).

Marvel too has movie diarrhea, with 1 in 10 movies being anything to write home about (eg. Logan).

I'd vote for less superhero movies and less Star Wars reboots and sequels/prequels, and more original stories. Plus, where's that Foundation series?

Re: Too Many Video Streaming Choices May Drive Users Back To Piracy

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

There are only one or two Marvel or Star Wars movies a year though. Is that really worth subscribing to a streaming service for? (Not to mention that only maybe a quarter of these movies are worth seeking out, the rest are something I’d only ever watch for free on an airplane or something. But that’s just personal taste).

Seeing the box office results of Disney’s movies, your anecdotal opinion doesn’t jibe with the overall market. Besides, there will also be Disney original MCU and Star Wars TV series.

>Seeing the box office results of Disney’s movies, your anecdotal opinion doesn’t jibe with the overall market.

Yes, but the overall market also doesn't jibe with taste, as Zappa would say...

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