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Re: Day Two to One Day

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Post by vimota »

OJFord wrote: post #58
vimota wrote: post #43

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I totally agree - we built https://indieshops.co/ in order to solve for the "quality first" alternative you mentioned. We found that the majority of online shopping today consisted of 1) buying basics (read: cheap mass products) on Amazon or 2) getting advertised brands to you on Instagram/Fb/Google and hoping the one you like finds you. We hope that Indieshops provides an alternative where you can discover high qual…

Nice! Any plans for other markets (and filtering for them)? I gather it's all 'made with love in the USA' currently. And how big is too big to be called 'indie'? If you take it quite literally it disallows having two shop fronts, but then to disallow that and allow online-only international-shipping... Just curious how you draw a line.

Thanks for the feedback! We're not deliberately making it US-only (in fact we have a few Canadian and Euro companies) but agree that navigating by market (or delivers-to) would be very useful!

We too are wrestling with that question, what should be the threshold for an "indie" company? We don't want to limit it so much that it's not useful for day-to-day shopping (ie too niche/etsy-ish), but haven't been too prescriptive yet about how big is too big. Hopefully users like you could help us define it!

Re: Day Two to One Day

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Post by kevin_thibedeau »

the_watcher wrote: post #53
petra wrote: post #51

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// product quality, counterfeiting, and producer control Those all come from a single reason: commingling - mixing the same product but from different sellers, when fulling an order. I could see shopify setting up a system of letting sellers buy a certain original product from a manufacturer - and sending it to some warehouse and selling it on their aggregated store. Let's say this solves co-mingling. Than it would a…

> I could see shopify setting up a system of letting sellers buy a certain original product from a manufacturer - and sending it to some warehouse and selling it on their aggregated store. Isn't this just dropshipping (already an extremely popular behavior on Shopify). The aggregator I'm describing is one where the aggregator is just solving product discovery, but limited to non-Amazon storefronts, ideally limited to…

Product search is about more than "discovery". You need to categorize products to distinguish variations like size and color. That requires real human curators and a revenue stream to pay them.

Re: Day Two to One Day

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Post by whamlastxmas »

frogpelt wrote: post #55
whamlastxmas wrote: post #34

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Tell us more about the in-depth and personal knowledge you have about the former Bezos marriage. Were you present for their marriage counseling? Their intimate disagreements? Tell us about how they interacted on a personal level and what their dynamic was together. Marriages are complicated. What we see in public is very limited and far from the truth. Being the richest dude in the world means everything goes through…

That's fair. I don't know what happened. But I assume he cheated on his wife. I consider that not having integrity. If I'm wrong and he didn't cheat on his wife, then I stand corrected. I disagree with your last statement. The problems with the world are because fewer people have integrity than because more people are believing tabloids.

He seemingly did have intimate relations with people other than his wife but there's a very wide spectrum of marriages out there.

Re: Day Two to One Day

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Post by ChuckMcM »

petra wrote: post #40
ChuckMcM wrote: post #35

There is so much about Amazon that is clearly in the 'Day 2' territory. I am not as swayed by one day shipping as the author is. Yes, its a big challenge and yes it makes things even more likely that Amazon will hurt brick and mortar stores (as an experiment look at the commercial retail space in your town and see how many 'things' retailers there are. Not as many as there were, and in some places entire city blocks…

>> All in all I am pretty bearish on them. Who will "kill" them ? What will the e-commerce market look like in 10 years - and could that be without Amazon as a major competitor ?

That is a good question, back when I was younger the question was "Could anyone kill Sears and Roebuck?" for much the same reasons. Using the history of Sears, and how they lost their lock on retail America, if Amazon dies the same way it will because there will be other choices that are give customers something that they want while Amazon fails to change (aka Day 2 type behavior).

For example, if your chance of getting something counterfeit on Amazon was 50% and to return it would take several days. Then a new company that focused on only legitimate merchandise and easy returns would start eating away at Amazon's volume. Now that is just an example, not saying it is going to happen, but another closer to home experience was Fry's Electronics where more and more often they would take customer returns, shrink wrap them and stick them back on the shelf. I once bought a DVD drive there open the box to find it contained a CDROM that clearly someone had taken out of their computer and replaced with a DVD drive (same thing I was doing). When I went to take it back the store said "How do we know you aren't the one who swapped it?" It took about 40 minutes but we found the serial number on the box had been previously returned the week before. From that point on I made a point of opening the package at the store to insure I wasn't getting the odd second hand "re-gifted" product.

I am already unwilling to go to Amazon for products that are easily copied.

Re: Day Two to One Day

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Post by the_watcher »

kevin_thibedeau wrote: post #62
the_watcher wrote: post #53

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> I could see shopify setting up a system of letting sellers buy a certain original product from a manufacturer - and sending it to some warehouse and selling it on their aggregated store. Isn't this just dropshipping (already an extremely popular behavior on Shopify). The aggregator I'm describing is one where the aggregator is just solving product discovery, but limited to non-Amazon storefronts, ideally limited to…

Product search is about more than "discovery". You need to categorize products to distinguish variations like size and color. That requires real human curators and a revenue stream to pay them.

Categorization is very possible without human curation, particularly if you're ingesting structured data (as would be likely in the case of a Shopify site aggregator/search engine). And the idea wouldn't be for this to be non-revenue generating, it would generate revenue via revshare on purchases or ads.

Re: Day Two to One Day

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Post by dexterdog »

madamelic wrote: post #22
dexterdog wrote: post #8

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Does it even have to be a disruptor? Can't people just figure out how to put a better storefront on Amazon's backend and just filter out the garbage?

Amazon has an API but it is severely rate-limited and has had some functionality cut to prevent such a thing.

So why can't there be a service that runs for each user with his own API key?

Re: Day Two to One Day

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Post by sanbor »

What is the impact to the environment? I imagine speeding up the delivery leaves little room for delivery optimization.

1 day/same day shipping can be very useful a sometimes, but having it by default seems wastful.

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