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Amazon’s Shipping Empire Is Challenging UPS and FedEx

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Re: Amazon’s Shipping Empire Is Challenging UPS and FedEx

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I just find it amazing that Amazon found it more profitable to buy tens of thousands of delivery vehicles and build a service from the ground up than to find better deals through the available shippers. Now I see their trucks nearly as often as Fed Ex and UPS.

Not having to deal with liability and insurance probably helps the bottom line a lot.

Re: Amazon’s Shipping Empire Is Challenging UPS and FedEx

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Huh, missing from this article is the thousand or so DSP that service Amazon for shipping, basically contracting companies. A lot of Amazon shipping is actually Amazon corporate, but a huge chunk is a thousand smaller shops. Turns out you can also contract with those shops as a private citizen to just ship random heavy stuff anywhere for super cheap. Because Amazon gives them enough volume, it's become cheaper for in…

> DSP

Just so I don't misunderstand, does that stand for Delivery Service Provider?

Re: Amazon’s Shipping Empire Is Challenging UPS and FedEx

#63

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Additionally, I have yet to ever have a driver ring the doorbell. They throw it at the house, mark it as complete, and trust that I’ll stumble across it later.

I would recommend signing up for the Amazon TextTrace delivery notifications. There is a prompt to sign up whenever you place an order. The notifications will send you a text message to your mobile phone or a push notification to the Amazon app on your smartphone as soon as your shipment gets delivered.

I don’t mind text notices, but it will always have a higher latency than ringing my doorbell. The best though is getting alerts about a delivery and then going on a scavenger hunt to find the package. Will it be on the front porch? Will it be tucked behind a bush? Maybe I left my garage door open so the driver helpfully left it there...

Re: Amazon’s Shipping Empire Is Challenging UPS and FedEx

#64

I just find it amazing that Amazon found it more profitable to buy tens of thousands of delivery vehicles and build a service from the ground up than to find better deals through the available shippers. Now I see their trucks nearly as often as Fed Ex and UPS.

Most of their fleet is private contractors who supply their own vehicles. Minimal capital investment for Amazon

From the buzzfeedNews article, apparently they are proposing the lease of vehicles to their contractors

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/carolineodonovan/amazon...

Re: Amazon’s Shipping Empire Is Challenging UPS and FedEx

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post #47

Both UPS and FedEx deliveries arrive at my front door in good condition, the delivery drivers bag the packages up if I'm not home and it looks like rain. USPS consistently rings my doorbell and makes sure packages are handed to me rather than left outside. Amazon delivered packages have been: thrown from the street; arrive crushed, punctured, or otherwise damaged; left in the driveway; left in the neighbors yard; nev…

Any packages from Amazon that have been delivered by its independent contractor delivery people have always been photographed sitting by my front door.

Do yours not take photos?

Re: Amazon’s Shipping Empire Is Challenging UPS and FedEx

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post #18

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Natural monopoly means that it's not possible for more than one supplier to survive. This is clearly not the case for packages delivery. For consumers the more suppliers the better.

Consumers benefit assuming all suppliers are equivalent, which is not at all the case with Amazon. They're gaining a price advantage over using real carriers mainly through incredibly exploitative labor practices in the warehouse and abusing uber-like contractors to cover the last mile for pennies on the dollar. Not only is the human/societal cost high, consumers directly suffer as well as untrained contractors worki…

If the model is failing as you describe, then more competition is a good thing. Consumers will flock to whoever that provides better service for what it is they’re willing to pay.

I’m not sure how consumers suffer - if trained or untrained contractors fail at their jobs, consumers take their business elsewhere.

It sounds like you’re against Amazons delivery practices. Fine. But the more competition there is, the better. UPS or Fedex absolutely shouldn’t own the private delivery market.

Re: Amazon’s Shipping Empire Is Challenging UPS and FedEx

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post #47

Both UPS and FedEx deliveries arrive at my front door in good condition, the delivery drivers bag the packages up if I'm not home and it looks like rain. USPS consistently rings my doorbell and makes sure packages are handed to me rather than left outside. Amazon delivered packages have been: thrown from the street; arrive crushed, punctured, or otherwise damaged; left in the driveway; left in the neighbors yard; nev…

Am I correct in thinking that the last mile delivery solution from Amazon strictly relies on independent contractors or do they have corporate trucks/drivers?

Re: Amazon’s Shipping Empire Is Challenging UPS and FedEx

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post #47

Both UPS and FedEx deliveries arrive at my front door in good condition, the delivery drivers bag the packages up if I'm not home and it looks like rain. USPS consistently rings my doorbell and makes sure packages are handed to me rather than left outside. Amazon delivered packages have been: thrown from the street; arrive crushed, punctured, or otherwise damaged; left in the driveway; left in the neighbors yard; nev…

Any packages from Amazon that have been delivered by its independent contractor delivery people have always been photographed sitting by my front door. Do yours not take photos?

I live in apartment building with ~100 units, lots of Amazon packages and many from independent contractors. I've never even heard of this, and can't imagine them bothering.

Re: Amazon’s Shipping Empire Is Challenging UPS and FedEx

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Any packages from Amazon that have been delivered by its independent contractor delivery people have always been photographed sitting by my front door. Do yours not take photos?

I live in apartment building with ~100 units, lots of Amazon packages and many from independent contractors. I've never even heard of this, and can't imagine them bothering.

I also live in a complex with over 100 units and yet Amazon still manages to track my packages effectively, take pictures, etc, so I'm not sure what the point is. Different delivery people treat packages differently?

Re: Amazon’s Shipping Empire Is Challenging UPS and FedEx

#70

Recent piece on the human costs of Prime’s next day delivery promise: https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/carolineodonovan/amazon...

interesting article, thanks for sharing it. I have been seeing more and more of these 3rd party contractor vans milling about and it makes since they're skimping on safety, etc. in order to get a piece of amazon's shipping needs, meanwhile amazon attempts to disclaim all liability while turning the screws and upping the pressure
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