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A mobile phone that respects your freedom [video]

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Re: A mobile phone that respects your freedom [video]

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Excellent talk. I can't wait for this phone (Librem 5) to be available. Only wish the specs were slightly better (higher screen rez for ex). But the privacy and security features more than make up for that.

I can't see it working unless they support WhatsApp and friends. No network effect means it will die. Unfortunately.

What's "and friends" here? Not everywhere WhatsApp is unavoidably strong, and many competitors can be used on "weird" devices like this.

Re: A mobile phone that respects your freedom [video]

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If I can install Signal or use bridges in the Matrix client, I don't see that being a problem.

There’s a WhatsApp bridge?

I haven't tried it, but it looks like it[1]!

1: https://matrix.org/bridges#whats-app

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If the star in the bottom corner was a Star of David instead of a pentagram and you said the exact same thing what do you think the response should be?

The same thing? If you want mass appeal you must appeal to the masses. Using loaded symbology is a good way to torch your hard work.

So that explains why religion, rock music and the dollar never became particularly popular. I did wonder.

Re: A mobile phone that respects your freedom [video]

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I can't see it working unless they support WhatsApp and friends. No network effect means it will die. Unfortunately.

To the average consumer it's slower, bigger and more expensive than the alternatives - I suspect that'd kill it even if it had WhatsApp. They seem very aware of both issues though. In the talk their CTO mentions that they see it being used alongside another device. She also mentions they are only making 10,000 units so mass adoption clearly isn't the target.

I think this first version is for getting the infrastructure in place to go on to the next which should be easier to develop and possibly have a bigger audience.

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Parts of the memory interface have been mentioned previously: https://puri.sm/posts/librem5-solving-the-first-fsf-ryf-hurd... Similarly, they seem to have choosen the Wifi and Bluetooth chips as well because they have no downloadable firmware, and the isolation for the baseband probably ensures the same there: https://puri.sm/posts/librem5-2018-09-hardware-report/ If those would have meaningful updates is a good ques…

Okay, thank you. Is there any way to mitigate this if one wants to keep Wifi and Bluetooth? I guess if one really wanted to be pure then, they could just keep the second (of three, see below) hardware switches off, and even possibly de-solder a connection, to ensure they aren't accidently flipped on. Hardware Switches: - cameras and microphone - WiFi and Bluetooth - cellular baseband (When all three switches are off,…

People: So how much security and privacy will we have on the Librem 5?

Purism: Yes.

Re: A mobile phone that respects your freedom [video]

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The pentagram at the bottom left of the video is an instant deal-breaker for millions of regular folks... being aware of social sensitivities is a big part of being successful for projects that aim for broad adoption.

The pentagram at the bottom left of the video is an instant deal-breaker for millions of regular folks

Yeah, it's a little tone-deaf.

I understand it's meant to be tongue-in-cheek and all that. But if, for example, they used a swastika, even if they were using it in the context one of the dozens of cultures for whom it's a normal symbol, it would still be tone deaf.

A lot of people here are saying it's just a symbol, etc... But if it was a Christian cross, I bet a lot of HN readers would flinch with "I'm not supporting some fundy company!"

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Never bought a phone outside of a contract?

i suppose not, so how does it work?

You buy a SIM card from a wireless provider, register your service, and you're connected to that provider's network. Depending on which country you live in, you may be asked to provide evidence of your identity to varying degrees.

For example, to set up my service in Australia, I bought a SIM card in a little packet at a corner store for A$40. The SIM card was from a specific wireless provider (Telstra, in this instance), but it was sitting side-by-side with SIM cards from other providers in the store. It came "pre-loaded" with 35GB of data to use on their network, plus unlimited SMS and voice calling, which was described on the packaging. When I put the SIM in the device I was prompted to go to a website to register my service, where I input a code from the SIM card packet to link the SIM itself. I was asked to provide my driver license number or passport number. I was then able to choose between three pre-selected phone numbers that were displayed on the screen. Click Finish, and my cellular service started working on my phone. Every month I have the option to renew my plan under the same terms, or choose a plan with different terms (more or less GB of data, for instance), or throw the SIM card away and switch to a different wireless provider.

Re: A mobile phone that respects your freedom [video]

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The pentagram at the bottom left of the video is an instant deal-breaker for millions of regular folks... being aware of social sensitivities is a big part of being successful for projects that aim for broad adoption.

I don’t mean to be disrespectful but I find this view weird. The pentagram is on the slides for this technical presentation. Millions of regular folks won’t be watching this video I would think. Maybe I find it weird because I don’t place any significance on that symbol, but you’re talking about slides on a pretty obscure talk.
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