Wow... I've been waiting for this for over 10 years now. The previous version was an example of a loss when Flash started to die. Since I don't install Flash any more I've been unable to use it. So glad to see it back.
Ishkur's Guide to Electronic Music
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Re: Ishkur's Guide to Electronic Music
#62The Brostep entry alone is worth visiting the site to read.
Some of the writing is funny, some is distracting from its purpose. The Dubstep entry for instance spends most of its time bashing brostep and skrillex which is a shame as it glosses over the first few years of interesting music before it devolved.
It never devolved; the mainstream split off from the genre, which remains underground and still has a couple dozen labels actively producing music, as it has for the last decade.
The genre is actually evolving constantly and there's a fair amount of interesting material and new artists. But it's back to being a niche much like jungle is nowadays.
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#63This is missing all of the post-2011 dubstep subgenre stuff. If you search "melodic dubstep" or "chillstep" there's lots of relatively popular post-2011 stuff that's way more tasteful for a mass audience than skrillex. But that's just one branch. The other major branch is called "freeform bass" or sometimes "spacebass". Certain bass music (post-2016?) no longer has a clear genre definition, so we've literally adopted…
If you read the FAQ, he stopped working on most of this around 2014, so a lot of the newer stuff will be missing.
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#64Oh my gosh, I clicked expecting to see the classic old version... this is an updated one!! It looks like this one even shows the progression of the sound of a genre or subgenre over time, not just the other genres that came from it. Forgive my excitement but damn, the original guide was an absolute treasure of the early (at least for me) internet, and as a teenager getting into electronic music but with no real local…
I was just talking about this the other day with glowing nostalgia. What a delightful unexpected event. I had a similar experience to you with the flash version and it lead me to start making music myself and get involved in a scene that really was one of the most valuable experiences of my young life. Having the graph to explore the lexicon for what exists and examples side by side to get an understanding of why felt like finding a secret treasure map. I can only think of one other flash program I've gone and searched out in the years since and it's the dumb Something Awful Jeff K cartoon making fun of Linux users [0]. Any time I've shown the old version to people over the years it blew their minds. If I ever make anything half as impactful I'll consider myself pretty lucky.
[0] https://www.somethingawful.com/feature-articles/jeff-ks-user...
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#65Some of these genre descriptions are _awesome!_ - th9s is from the LiquidFunk subgenre of Drum n Bass: "Just before the turn of the millenium is when a sufficient number of white people were attending Jungle parties to the point where music writers and magazines stopped calling it Jungle and rebranded it Drum n Bass, although the partykids retained the label "junglists" and they're still called that today (probably b…
“Spacesynth is best known as an energetic non-threatening genre with a surprising amount of commercial applications, almost like royalty free music. You may have heard it as background music in 80s VHS boardroom presentations or educational videos, community access TV show theme songs, commercial interstitials, pornography, and Amiga/Tracker conferences. You know, the stuff dorky guys in their 40s are into.”
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#66Does the author actually like any music? So far every description I've read tells me that the music is either pretentious or a sell-out. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Although this looks like a lot of work, a more positive guide would be vastly more useful. Help me find the best of a genre, rather than telling me it all devolved in trash. My metric so far is that if it's labelled pretentious I'll probably like it.
Read the Q&A:
> Q: Why did you make this?
> A: Because educating others and fighting ignorance is one of the noblest activities that anyone can ever engage in. Also, jokes.
Part of the fun the is genre bashing. But don't take the genres too seriously.
> Suggested usage: Ignore scenes and genres. Instead, pick a single year and move through the guide vertically, listening to different music released in that year.
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#67I remember using this in the very early 2000. I made electronic music myself, and it functioned as a sort of mashup between Wikipedia and the recommendations at Spotify. I remember browsing the genres, getting some recommendation and searching for the files on Soulseek. When I found the files I could browse all the files of the user that shared them and often find similar acts. Lovely times. Still have the files, btw…
I think you should click the link. This is not what you were using in the early 2000s :)
I saw that. Not that far from it though. Remember the selection of genres and some of the samples provided. Much is still the same.
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#68From the comments I was expecting a really cool site with a lot of knowledge, but so far all I've seen is genre bashing. Since this is supposedly a general guide on all electronic music, it's really unfortunate they need to convey their negative opinions on everything that isn't their genre of choice. Either Ishkur is getting old and resentful or we live on completely opposite sites of music taste.
The "path of Ishkur" for most people is to arrive at the site, marvel at the artistic layout and amount of info presented, then immediately drill down to one's favorite genre to find... that Ishkur roasts it like an old episode of SNL, mildly offending the casual visitor who feels their taste has been somehow called out. Later on one discovers that Ishkur roasts all of the genres in similar fashion and that this is p…
He likes some of them. He really likes acid house.
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#69Yes, finally! Ishkur's original guide and Listology's Darktremor's top 400 trance list and Dazzamack's top 1000 EDM lists are what really got me into electronic music! I'm kinda bummed out right now that listology.com doesn't exist anymore :( EDIT: For anyone interested, at the time, I downloaded both Darktremor's and Dazzamack's lists. You can find them here: https://gist.github.com/dukeofharen/48450ec07254f82c7a9b5…
Yeah, please upload them!
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#70Fucking modern web dev piece of shit where you can't even ctrl+F among the big list to find what you were seeking. Guess at least it covers a decent breadth of styles.