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Equifax removed the $125 claim payout option after millions submitted claims

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Re: Equifax removed the $125 claim payout option after millions submitted claims

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post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I would like to bet $1,000 that the payment ends up being $1 or more per claimant. You in?

LOL - no. I did not mean it literally. Did you have a point on the substance?

My point is that your prediction is very likely wrong.

I was hoping to make $1,000 while making this point, but alas. Next time maybe don't make a prediction you aren't willing to stand behind.

Re: Equifax removed the $125 claim payout option after millions submitted claims

#62
post #53

We're all supposed to take it as just a fact of life now that we need a monitoring service for a service none of us opted in to. And who runs these monitoring services? Why of course, it's the credit reporting companies! Who else would it be. So not only do they know when fraud is happening to you, but they will happily ruin your life while knowing and charge you for the privilege of knowing this is happening to you.…

Unfortunately, most of us did opt in. If you look at the credit agreements we sign when we buy cars, open credit accounts, enter into a mortgage, we give the lender the privilege to share our data with these credit reporting companies.

I'm aware this is legally the case, but I think this is yet another sign that default opt-in isn't a legitimate agreement, society has become pretty litigious and I think some of the understanding around default opt-ins during enrollment for other services and third party data sales need to be revisited.

I find them to be highly unethical and to generally result in a contract negotiated without compensation and any communication in good faith.

Re: Equifax removed the $125 claim payout option after millions submitted claims

#63

well.. when individuals lose a court battle, they owe the winning party money from their future earnings, in case their current balance does not cover the sum owed. Why don't they make companies do that. It would only seem fair for the amount of damage they did :|

Because they would just go out of business and the debt would disappear.

Debts don't simply "disappear" because a company goes out of business. And there already exist nondischargeable debts (like "criminal penalties, fines, and restitution", or "willful and malicious injury caused by debtor", both of which should apply here).

Re: Equifax removed the $125 claim payout option after millions submitted claims

#64
post #13

Surely the FTC and Equifax saw this coming? 150m people were included in the breach. Only 31m USD was allocated to give anyone who claimed 125 USD? How on earth did they do this math?

Maybe they didn't expect most people to follow up on this?

The amount of money they set aside only allows for 248,000 people to claim the $125 compensation. That is roughly 0.2% of the total 147 million. Seems a bit off to me, but then again I am not familiar with these kinds of things.

Re: Equifax removed the $125 claim payout option after millions submitted claims

#65

Surely the FTC and Equifax saw this coming? 150m people were included in the breach. Only 31m USD was allocated to give anyone who claimed 125 USD? How on earth did they do this math?

They’re coincidentally offering a $125/year service that does the thing that you have to sign up for to get reimbursed the $125 dollars. So basically they’re not offering $125, they’re offering a year of free credit monitoring service. So yeah, $31 million, but they intend to recoup all if not most of it in fees, and then make money the year after when people forget to cancel.

Re: Equifax removed the $125 claim payout option after millions submitted claims

#67
post #8

The FAQ is really condescending and almost sounds deliberately written to make people angry.

I seriously had to double check the URL in the address bar because I thought I was reading another FAQ from Equifax:

> The free credit monitoring provides a much better value

> You can still choose the cash option on the claim form, but you will be disappointed with the amount you receive and you won’t get the free credit monitoring.

The wording is just so... it seems to be coming directly from Equifax's PR department.

Re: Equifax removed the $125 claim payout option after millions submitted claims

#69
post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

LOL - no. I did not mean it literally. Did you have a point on the substance?

My point is that your prediction is very likely wrong. I was hoping to make $1,000 while making this point, but alas. Next time maybe don't make a prediction you aren't willing to stand behind.

Oh, please. I'm merely emphasizing the point that the promised $125 (and I saw nothing in the way of a qualification when I made my claim), was fantasy from the beginning and likely to be a very small fraction of that amount. That fact is objectionable. Your focus on a turn of phrase is unhelpful and does not contribute to the conversation at hand. HN is better than that.

Re: Equifax removed the $125 claim payout option after millions submitted claims

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post #55
post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Your statement is interesting but does not constitute nor provide any substantive information that is backed by evidence. Backup your 'anecdotal' claims.

Banks and credit card issuers all pay hefty sums of money to the reporting agencies to use in underwriting their loans. They wouldn't do this if they weren't helpful in modeling risk.

The majority of people on this board work in tech - just because money is exchanged for a service does not mean that the service purchased is worth that money... so can many attest about terrible highly paid consultants.

Large organizations are astoundingly good at finding inefficient ways to spend money.

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