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Apple Reports Declining Profits and Slowing Growth Again
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Re: Apple Reports Declining Profits and Slowing Growth Again
#62iPhone sales continues to decline (down another 13% vs this quarter last year), but services are making up for it
And they will continue to decline as long as a $200 Android phone can do literally ~95% of what a $1400 iPhone can do. Seriously, there's just no good reason for a general consumer to purchase an iPhone today. Build quality on the Android devices even in the $200 realm are damn near what the iPhone offers. For the record: I've used iPhones since 2010. I've never had an Android until this year. It came time to upgrade…
Disagree that iPhone users are going from a previously $700 phone to a “free when you switch carriers” Android.
More so that someone with a 6S or better has little reason to upgrade; the improvements have been incremental.
Re: Apple Reports Declining Profits and Slowing Growth Again
#63iPhone sales continues to decline (down another 13% vs this quarter last year), but services are making up for it
It's pretty amazing the amount of money they make on services. It's almost 45% of the iPhone revenue, while I was under the impression that it was more like 3-4% of overall revenue.
Re: Apple Reports Declining Profits and Slowing Growth Again
#64I have thought long and hard about upgrading my iPhone 8 to one of the new X models, but I don't like the lack of a home button. I guess I am officially old now, but I dont want to look at my phone to unlock it. I like that I can reach in my pocket, and unlock it with my thumb as I retrieve it. It may be user error, but I see several co-workers have to really train the phone on their face to unlock with Face ID. That…
I was an early adopter of iPhone X and the following year with XS Max, from my experience any unfamiliarity with FaceID is extremely short-lived, I wouldn't go back to a home button which feels archaic at this point and unnecessarily takes up valuable real-estate that should go towards a larger screen. The gestures also become fluid and second nature after a while. Even the next Pixel4 is moving to using FaceID, goin…
Agree, new UX sans home buttons is amazing. I was a sceptic but ended up buying XS outright as it didn’t make sense to spend so much money on a XR and not get the camera. It’s an amazing device.
Re: Apple Reports Declining Profits and Slowing Growth Again
#65iPhone sales continues to decline (down another 13% vs this quarter last year), but services are making up for it
And they will continue to decline as long as a $200 Android phone can do literally ~95% of what a $1400 iPhone can do. Seriously, there's just no good reason for a general consumer to purchase an iPhone today. Build quality on the Android devices even in the $200 realm are damn near what the iPhone offers. For the record: I've used iPhones since 2010. I've never had an Android until this year. It came time to upgrade…
And my Toyota can literally do 99% of what your BMW can do. BMW is obviously screwed.
Re: Apple Reports Declining Profits and Slowing Growth Again
#66iPhone sales continues to decline (down another 13% vs this quarter last year), but services are making up for it
Still using multiple iPhone 6 devices in the family. The newest one is iPhone 8 and it will last hopefully another 5 years. Even iPhone 3G is used almost weekly with another number for ads. The phones are durable and get updates many years after purchase date. New original battery replacement costs 49€, not cheap, but it gives at least another 2 years of life for the phone.
Re: Apple Reports Declining Profits and Slowing Growth Again
#67Apple: Revenue Growth 1% (quarterly)
Huawei: Revenue Growth 23.2% (half-yearly)
Apple: Revenue ~$258 billion
Huawei: Revenue ~$105 billion
Apple: R&D $14 billion[0]
Huawei: R&D $15 billion[1]
Apple: Employee Count ~132,000
Huawei: Employee Count ~188,000†
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I'm going to take an unusual step here. Please, please don't downvote this post for pointing this out! I'm just highlighting for contrast, not for criticism. Trying to start a conversation.
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[0] https://www.nasdaq.com/article/apple-aapl-earnings-after-the...
[1] http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/a/201904/09/WS5cac0859a31048422...
† “Huawei had over 188,000 employees as of September 2018, around 76,000 of them engaged in Research & Development (R&D)” (I presume Apple has tens of thousands employed in r&d, anybody any idea roughly how many?)
edit: sigh
Re: Apple Reports Declining Profits and Slowing Growth Again
#68I have thought long and hard about upgrading my iPhone 8 to one of the new X models, but I don't like the lack of a home button. I guess I am officially old now, but I dont want to look at my phone to unlock it. I like that I can reach in my pocket, and unlock it with my thumb as I retrieve it. It may be user error, but I see several co-workers have to really train the phone on their face to unlock with Face ID. That…
> I dont want to look at my phone to unlock it
You can turn this off in Settings.
Re: Apple Reports Declining Profits and Slowing Growth Again
#69Apple: Revenue Growth 1% (quarterly) Huawei: Revenue Growth 23.2% (half-yearly) Apple: Revenue ~$258 billion Huawei: Revenue ~$105 billion Apple: R&D $14 billion[0] Huawei: R&D $15 billion[1] Apple: Employee Count ~132,000 Huawei: Employee Count ~188,000† --- I'm going to take an unusual step here. Please, please don't downvote this post for pointing this out! I'm just highlighting for contrast, not for criticism. Tr…
What fraction of Huawei's employees work on mobile phones?
Re: Apple Reports Declining Profits and Slowing Growth Again
#70iPhone sales continues to decline (down another 13% vs this quarter last year), but services are making up for it
And they will continue to decline as long as a $200 Android phone can do literally ~95% of what a $1400 iPhone can do. Seriously, there's just no good reason for a general consumer to purchase an iPhone today. Build quality on the Android devices even in the $200 realm are damn near what the iPhone offers. For the record: I've used iPhones since 2010. I've never had an Android until this year. It came time to upgrade…
> there's just no good reason for a general consumer to purchase an iPhone today
For me, being able to iMessage / AirDrop / Facetime people is worth the money just from a people standpoint. Apple has a lot of vendor lock-in, and they still have the most polished product by far.