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Google unlocks 33% of publisher paywalls on July 30

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Re: Google unlocks 33% of publisher paywalls on July 30

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> while their subscription terms continue to be asinine Agreed. The only official way to cancel a NYT subscription is to call them. Infuriating.

At least as far as NYT Digital goes ... I can cancel my subscription online with the click of a button.

And I had to call to Croatia to cancel mine. There are definitely dark patterns these guys using. Which was very surprising to see from true-journalism-northern-star

Re: Google unlocks 33% of publisher paywalls on July 30

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If we're talking about Chrome I'm guessing most of the target audience is on Android phones. Is it really not possible to use javascript on those phones to sufficiently fingerprint them for the purpose of metering? Webaudio, HTML5 Canvas, webgl, various timings, and probably a thousand other data points I don't know about...

And doesn't the clone army of iphones all essentially use Safari where the cookies still work?

Re: Google unlocks 33% of publisher paywalls on July 30

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But how will we pay the NYT to try to drag the US into wars while David Brooks lectures debt-loaded millennials about work ethic and family values unless we let them continue to exploit a bug in web browsers? Monopolist news orgs are losing readership/revenue because they're terrible and refuse to change, not because of Chrome. Meanwhile other, better forms of journalism are thriving.

> Meanwhile other, better forms of journalism are thriving. Such as?

Most investigative journalism, at least in France, only live from subscribtion. And it is starting to works pretty well.

Re: Google unlocks 33% of publisher paywalls on July 30

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But how will we pay the NYT to try to drag the US into wars while David Brooks lectures debt-loaded millennials about work ethic and family values unless we let them continue to exploit a bug in web browsers? Monopolist news orgs are losing readership/revenue because they're terrible and refuse to change, not because of Chrome. Meanwhile other, better forms of journalism are thriving.

> Meanwhile other, better forms of journalism are thriving. Such as?

youtube/patreon

Re: Google unlocks 33% of publisher paywalls on July 30

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

At least as far as NYT Digital goes ... I can cancel my subscription online with the click of a button.

And I had to call to Croatia to cancel mine. There are definitely dark patterns these guys using. Which was very surprising to see from true-journalism-northern-star

Strange. I did JUST check mine and the option is there for me. Possibly they changed something between your adventure and mine.

Re: Google unlocks 33% of publisher paywalls on July 30

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Just curious... does anyone know what the main workaround sites were using to detect incognito? And if there are other likely ones the sites will be able to fall back to?

Not 100% sure but I think it is something to do with being able to write to localstorage (e.g. if the site figures it can't write there then it is in Incognito). I read it was something like that.

Re: Google unlocks 33% of publisher paywalls on July 30

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Since the article doesn't bother explaining the loophole being patched: https://9to5google.com/2019/02/15/google-chrome-detect-incog...

And so starts the next stage of the cat-and-mouse game: for instance detecting if the Incognito-allotted RAM filesystem is unrealistically small: https://9to5google.com/2019/07/23/researcher-discovers-new-w...

Re: Google unlocks 33% of publisher paywalls on July 30

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> Without fail, the websites detected the intrusion attempt and prevented access to the content Using incognito mode in the browser to make it a bit harder to be tracked (without even blocking ads!) is "an intrusion attempt"? Excuse me? That's absurd language.

The author was deliberately trying to use incognito mode to view the paywalled content, so this is imho rightfully called an intrusion attempt. Of course, if you're just using incognito mode normally and happened to visit the same page, then it is not an intrusion attempt but just incognito browsing. The whole point is that news websites can't distinguish between the two.

I wonder if he broke the CFA in doing so. Trying to access a computer in order to commit an act to defraud or some such nonsense.
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