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Re: GitHub confirms it has blocked developers in Iran, Syria and Crimea

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Post by sorenjan »

tomohawk wrote: post #23

Crimea: Illegal occupation by Russia. Ethnic cleansing. Syria: Using chemical weapons, sponsoring terrorism Iran: Assisting Syria; Actively developing nukes they say they will use, nuclear proliferation, biggest sponsor of terrorism, .... On the other hand, some people can't use an internet service. Oh! The inhumanity! Get a sense of proportion.

As far as I've seen there's no proof of Iran actively developing nuclear weapons, and they've denied doing so.

Crimea is under illegal occupation by Russia, shouldn't that mean that the whole of Russia is sanctioned and not Crimea, which still belongs to the Ukraine?

Re: GitHub confirms it has blocked developers in Iran, Syria and Crimea

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Post by dijit »

styx31 wrote: post #55
dijit wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I know this is just nitpicking, but US Sanctions apply to sanctioned state nationals; regardless of location.

Are you sure ? Quoted from GitHub CEO Nat Friedman on Twitter: > The restrictions are based on place of residence and location, not on nationality or heritage. If someone was flagged in error, they can fill out a form to get the restrictions lifted on their account within hours.

> Any company or national of Cuba, Iran, North Korea, Sudan, Syria, and the Crimea region. Export licensing of commodities or services intended for these countries is presumed denied;

Wording like this appears on the treasury documents, Google cloud and Oracles official documentation on sanctions.

I'll just link the Oracle one because ironically the one that google uses is really difficult to find:

http://www.oracle.com/us/products/export/export-regulations-...

Re: GitHub confirms it has blocked developers in Iran, Syria and Crimea

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Post by rndgermandude »

PunchTornado wrote: post #40
majia wrote: post #26

If Crimea was unwillingly annexed by Russia, then the sanction is punishing the victim instead of the criminal. If Crimea people genuinely supported the unification with Russia and received sanction for that, then it is a blatant attack on Crimean people's freedom.

pff, ridiculous comment. a region doesn't have the right to attach itself to another state. think about it. a bunch of russians move to somewhere near grand canion, do a referendum and then proclaim it russian territory.

Indeed, tell King George about it, and at the very least return Texas to Mexico and Mexico to Spain.

Re: GitHub confirms it has blocked developers in Iran, Syria and Crimea

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Post by whataboutist »

tomohawk wrote: post #34
antisemiotic wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

By that logic USA should be blocked too, right?

Oh, yeah - forgot about Crimea/Russia shooting down MH17 airliner.

Did you also forget about the US shooting down Iran Air Flight 655?

Re: GitHub confirms it has blocked developers in Iran, Syria and Crimea

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Post by tokai »

tomohawk wrote: post #23

Crimea: Illegal occupation by Russia. Ethnic cleansing. Syria: Using chemical weapons, sponsoring terrorism Iran: Assisting Syria; Actively developing nukes they say they will use, nuclear proliferation, biggest sponsor of terrorism, .... On the other hand, some people can't use an internet service. Oh! The inhumanity! Get a sense of proportion.

>Actively developing nukes they say they will use

This is not true. They might start doing that now. But it was the US that broke the nuclear agreement with Iran.

Re: GitHub confirms it has blocked developers in Iran, Syria and Crimea

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Post by mr__y »

Thankfully github is not a walled garden and repo can be moved to any other public or self-hosted git (well, at least the code itself). Or, as someone already suggested, use an external service/server that pushes the commits into git(hub|lab) repo. Git also seems to be relatively easy to work in a federated ecosystem - the only problem to be solved is read/write access in such environment.

Re: GitHub confirms it has blocked developers in Iran, Syria and Crimea

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Post by astronautjones »

tomohawk wrote: post #23

Crimea: Illegal occupation by Russia. Ethnic cleansing. Syria: Using chemical weapons, sponsoring terrorism Iran: Assisting Syria; Actively developing nukes they say they will use, nuclear proliferation, biggest sponsor of terrorism, .... On the other hand, some people can't use an internet service. Oh! The inhumanity! Get a sense of proportion.

> Iran: Assisting Syria; Actively developing nukes they say they will use, nuclear proliferation, biggest sponsor of terrorism, ....

all four of these statements are demonstrably more true of the USA than they are of Iran

Re: GitHub confirms it has blocked developers in Iran, Syria and Crimea

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Post by viraptor »

PunchTornado wrote: post #40
majia wrote: post #26

If Crimea was unwillingly annexed by Russia, then the sanction is punishing the victim instead of the criminal. If Crimea people genuinely supported the unification with Russia and received sanction for that, then it is a blatant attack on Crimean people's freedom.

pff, ridiculous comment. a region doesn't have the right to attach itself to another state. think about it. a bunch of russians move to somewhere near grand canion, do a referendum and then proclaim it russian territory.

You're totally right. Think about it, British/French/Spanish/... move to somewhere near grand canyon, do a referendum and they proclaim it United States? Ridiculous!

Re: GitHub confirms it has blocked developers in Iran, Syria and Crimea

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Post by stenl »

sethammons wrote: post #48
wickerman wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

US: actively developing weapons of mass destruction. Has committed several war crimes and illegally occupied territories in the middle east. Actively funded and continues to fund international terrorism. Israel: ethnic cleansing in the occupied territories in Palestine. Yet Crimea, Syria and Iran are the bad guys (btw Iran was funded by the US - yes same regime that now the US cries against).

Ignorant here; how has the US illegally occupied territories in the middle east? Illegal under which jurisdiction? For an invading force, there would be only potential jurisdictions, no? International and/or their own. If it were International, the US would face sanctions. If it were illegal under US law, how could it persist?

For example, the Iraq war was not approved by the UN Security Council, which is the only forum that can approve the use of force between (UN member) countries, apart from self defence. See https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legality_of_the_Iraq_War for more details.

Re: GitHub confirms it has blocked developers in Iran, Syria and Crimea

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Post by School-Cotton »

petercooper wrote: post #53

I'm curious.. why is this very suddenly an issue? Haven't countries like Iran and Syria been under embargo for years? Have more restrictive laws around sanctions been passed in recent weeks?

I’m not sure but I suspect the change is due to GitHub having been bought by MS which has more competent (or more paranoid.... or maybe just more) lawyers.
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