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Re: U.S. Forces Failed to Conquer Canada 200 Years Ago (2012)

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Post by ericmuyser » Fri, Jul 26, 2019, 9:45 AM UTC

nonstopnonsense wrote: post #53

Not sure if this will cause an uproar. An Indian by birth here. As I see it, this was just Britisher's fighting the other Britishers on land(s) that does not belong to them? PS: I've not read the history of both the nations (yet to open the book 1491), but I do know what the Britisher's did to India.

I agree it mostly a British thing, but I say it was their land. Never in history has territory been invaded and capture and then partially given back to the people with special rights like it has in North America. I think native Indians should just be Canadian and that's it, none of this special rights seclusion bullshit. I never did get why we did it? I feel like it's not even helping or what most want, is it just a bad compromise at this point?

Re: U.S. Forces Failed to Conquer Canada 200 Years Ago (2012)

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Post by henntipular » Fri, Jul 26, 2019, 11:46 AM UTC

8note wrote: post #51

kenned3 wrote: post #32

Canadian here.. why do we keep seeing these stories about how the US invaded "canada"? wasnt "Canada" created as part of the British North America Act (1867)? Didnt canada do a big "150" thing in 2017? The US invaded "british north america" in 1812. The article is also mistaken when it talks about "canadians" defending British North America. They were british citizens.

Would you prefer Upper and Lower Canadians?

As an upper Canadian, yes, those filthy lower Canadians.

Re: U.S. Forces Failed to Conquer Canada 200 Years Ago (2012)

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Post by henntipular » Fri, Jul 26, 2019, 11:49 AM UTC

throwaway3627 wrote: post #39

giancarlostoro wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Did they? I remember studying about that in Elementary school. Maybe most people forget history from Elementary school I suppose? We went over the Civil War and the World Wars for quite a while in Elementary school.

We also studied the War of 1812. It was a crushing, symbolic defeat in battle for the fledgling nation, although it didn't make much difference in total.

Lots of interesting battles too. I live in the corridor between Detroit and Toronto. Battles all up and down those lakes

Re: U.S. Forces Failed to Conquer Canada 200 Years Ago (2012)

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Post by goodcanadian » Fri, Jul 26, 2019, 12:22 PM UTC

kenned3 wrote: post #32

Canadian here.. why do we keep seeing these stories about how the US invaded "canada"? wasnt "Canada" created as part of the British North America Act (1867)? Didnt canada do a big "150" thing in 2017? The US invaded "british north america" in 1812. The article is also mistaken when it talks about "canadians" defending British North America. They were british citizens.

Confederation occurred in 1867. That is often considered to be the birth of the country. However, the concept of Canada as a place existed prior to that. And, yes, it was inhabited by people who called themselves Canadian even if they were also British citizens (until 1939, if memory serves correctly).

Re: U.S. Forces Failed to Conquer Canada 200 Years Ago (2012)

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Post by turk73 » Fri, Jul 26, 2019, 12:46 PM UTC

nonstopnonsense wrote: post #53

Not sure if this will cause an uproar. An Indian by birth here. As I see it, this was just Britisher's fighting the other Britishers on land(s) that does not belong to them? PS: I've not read the history of both the nations (yet to open the book 1491), but I do know what the Britisher's did to India.

My family was from Northern Germany, though. So not asshole Britishers. Someone from my family fought in the French and Indian War. After that, I'm not sure, but there's a reference to militia membership around the time of the Revolution. I guess they sat out the War of 1812. The men in my family were farmers from when they arrived in North America until about the 1940s when my Grandfather bailed on the whole tradition and started a string of failed businesses instead.