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Re: How to Find Hidden Cameras in Your Airbnb

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Post by Tade0 »

pvaldes wrote: post #18
dsl wrote: post #2

If you are concerned about cameras in Airbnbs, consider picking up a camera detector off Amazon for ~$30. They are basically a ring of super bright LEDs with a colored lens in the middle you put up to your eye and scan around the room. The light reflects off the curved glass of the lens and the filter helps you see it. The less effective but impromptu version of this is just holding a super bright flashlight between…

So if you really want to hide a pinhole camera. Meow... https://www.aliexpress.com/i/32731641924.html Looks like an arms race easy to win.

To that I raise you this:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nonlinear_junction_detector

Expensive, but surely there's someone providing such a service nearby?

Re: How to Find Hidden Cameras in Your Airbnb

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Post by djsumdog »

Hmm .. I had a friend recently who rented out a room on Airbnb and had guests that trashed it. Airbnb did pay damaged on his claim.

He rented again and the girl asked if she could rent for a few more months. So they signed a standard city lease outside Airbnb and she hasn't left or paid. He's had to file eviction. That obviously isn't AirBNB's fault, but it's now 2 for 2 bad experiences that started with AirBNB.

I wonder how many people install cameras in just the entrances/open areas more as a general liability thing. It probably goes against Airbnb policies, might be unethical or illegal in some jurisdictions, but considering the horror stories on both sides, I can understand why it happens.

Re: How to Find Hidden Cameras in Your Airbnb

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Post by chirau »

CaptainMarvel wrote: post #44
chirau wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> verify the.... Lost you there, how exactly? I live in one of these buildings. They can just tell you they are relatives or housesitters, then what?

I’m sure a significant number of people would just say they booked on AirBnB straight up. Especially if it’s multiple apartments, and there are many, many different people coming and going. You can also find the listing on AirBnB itself. This should be sufficient evidence to do whatever you need to.

I think you are working on assumptions. You shouldn't.

If a person in a building that is not Airbnb-able, trust me, they will tell their tenants to say these things. I have experienced it myself in several Airbnbs i have stayed in.

Re: How to Find Hidden Cameras in Your Airbnb

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Post by dsfyu404ed »

pjc50 wrote: post #22
rand84545 wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There are two possibilties here: - The noise level is within the reasonable legal limit: Tourists are exercising their rights to use the condo, in the same way that the owner (main renter) could have done. Whether it's the owner making the noise or the tourists is immaterial. - The noise levels are above the legal limits, inform them (courtesy) and then call the cops. whether it's the owner, or the tourists it's the…

"I have a right to do everything that's not actually illegal" is an attitude that directly results in all kinds of trivial things being banned. In this case, it's leading to cities trying to ban or restrict AirBNB.

Along those same lines "I find it reasonable to call the cops on every violation of the letter of the law" results in a really shitty society.

Re: How to Find Hidden Cameras in Your Airbnb

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Post by dsfyu404ed »

travisoneill1 wrote: post #41
pjc50 wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"I have a right to do everything that's not actually illegal" is an attitude that directly results in all kinds of trivial things being banned. In this case, it's leading to cities trying to ban or restrict AirBNB.

I do have that right. Busybody losers who complain constantly about trivial things are the reason all kinds of trivial things are banned.

Your wording is a little over the top but I generally agree.

You know how many fucks I give about my neighbor's power tools at odd hours or my other neighbor's loud birds or my other neighbor who's always smoking weed, or my other neighbor who's always getting loud and drunk with his buddies and all the other things people around me do that some find disagreeable?

Zero.

Those things are what a free society sounds and smells like. The people who want everyone around them to abide by an upper middle class standard of behavior where everyone keeps their lawn just the right height, ensures non-running cars are parked out of view and (practically) never makes any noise can move to an upper middle class neighborhood.

Edit:

I'm being serious. People need to care less what their neighbors do. Caring what your neighbors do and slowly codifying that over time is what gave us the affordable and walk-able utopias of SF, LA, DMV, etc.

Re: How to Find Hidden Cameras in Your Airbnb

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Post by gpvos »

chirau wrote: post #32
PlasticTank wrote: post #28

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Have you never heard of common courtesy? I'm not by law required to do a lot of things I do but I do them because they make the world that little bit better for everyone, same goes for things I avoid doing.

Where does it start, where does it end? Who defines it? "Common courtesy" is a very vague term and changes from place to place

Not being a jerk includes having some measure of sensitivity regarding what is considered jerk-like behaviour in the situation you find yourself in, informing yourself, and erring on the side of caution in unknown situations. Of course, mistakes will be made, but that doesn't invalidate the principle.

Re: How to Find Hidden Cameras in Your Airbnb

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Post by orcdork »

StavrosK wrote: post #46
pentae wrote: post #27

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Of course the Dutch come up with a very fair and reasonable compromise.

Isn't it like this in many places in Europe now? Barcelona does 60 days and Greece does 90 that I know, as well. Maybe I'm mistaken on Barcelona.

The 90 day limit in Greece is related to how income from the properties is taxed iirc.

Re: How to Find Hidden Cameras in Your Airbnb

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Post by SeanDav »

codfrantic wrote: post #51
pentae wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Of course the Dutch come up with a very fair and reasonable compromise.

Which then in turn isn't really enforced and the commercial guys running multiple appartments as full time rentals find intricate ways around the rules...

There will always be people that find ways around rules, but if the rules exist and are reasonably well enforced, then that is really what is required. This assumes the rule is reasonable, which does appear to be the case here.
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