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Re: Twenty-one cities in India will run out of groundwater by 2020

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Post by ecmascript »

abdullahkhalids wrote: post #59
ecmascript wrote: post #57

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why do people tweet like this? It is impossible to follow. Like.. just write an article or a blog post instead. :/

Because people don't click on links on twitter as often as they bother to read a tweet thread. But also, I actually like this form of communication. By the nature of the medium (one thought per tweet), you are forced to discard all superfluous details. Instead each tweet/thought must be a strong point. This is compared to a blog, where the only thing holding you back from adding fluff is your own intellectual discipl…

Well, not all discourse needs to happen on twitter.

Sure, it is nice when there is something you can actually convey in just a few sentences but I have a hard time reading this.

It is hard to follow because my reading gets interrupted, and I need to focus on where I am instead of what information I am receiving. I donno. I just think it's hard and it's very annoying so I'm rather inclined to stop reading because honestly I don't care enough to make the hassle worth it.

Re: Twenty-one cities in India will run out of groundwater by 2020

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Post by selimthegrim »

amrx431 wrote: post #30
ahamedirshad123 wrote: post #28

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What are you smoking? That's what happen when you try to impose your language on us through some education policies. That's what happens when you remove the Tamil name with some name in a language somewhat foreign to us. And calling us racists? Who coined the name madarasi for South Indians? It's the north of Vindhya.

I dont know as to why you would infer that I am calling a couple of hundreds of million people racist. I will restate what my assertion is. Identity politics is the political paradigm in India. Majority of the populace in India votes on basis of identity, caste, creed or religion. The linguistic identity of people is the best and only identity politics that is there. Now if reorganisation of Indian states on basis of…

Delimitation of LS by population was frozen in 1976 and will remain so until 2026. North will be favored by population even then. Why not redistrict anyway?

Re: Twenty-one cities in India will run out of groundwater by 2020

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Post by martincollignon »

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Re: Twenty-one cities in India will run out of groundwater by 2020

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Post by chewz »

rishav_sharan wrote: post #41
modi15 wrote: post #15

There have been a flurry of alarmists posts like these but somehow I cant wrap my head around how will we run out of water. I stay in Bangalore and some people do have the problem of water - but for the most part it doesnt seem to be an issue of 'lack' of water perse but mostly distribution issues. Bangalore has been having intermittent rains throughout the summers and even though few people use them now, but if situ…

Let me give the PoV from Hyderabad. Hyderabad gets water from mainly 3 sources; 1. Musi river water/Manjeera 2. the Large lakes like Hussain/Osmania Sagar etc. 3. ground water/borewells My apartment society in Gachibowli area, just ran of water for a few days back in June. The borewell just couldnt get the water. There is no lake around us. Getting the river water connection would be around Rs.15_00_0000. To add to t…

> Right now several apartment societies with 3000+ apartments in them are coming up in my immediate neighbourhood. So next year, we can expect the borewell water to be over way before june (early may?).

Do you mean that a permit had been given to developement project without providing adequate water supply first? And it will depend on borewells?

> Rain water harvesting doesnt works greatly in areas like ours which only get a few months of rain. Where will you keep the harvested water for the next 8-9 months?

Some desert cities in Palestine had a rain once in a three years. Still tanks provided adequate amounts of water.

Seems like India ain't lacking in water resources but in governance.

Re: Twenty-one cities in India will run out of groundwater by 2020

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Post by benj111 »

invalidusernam3 wrote: post #60
benj111 wrote: post #50

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How many litres of water does it take to make a litre of mineral water? How does that compare with a kg of lettuce, or tomatoes, or beef? Bottled water has its problems, water use isnt really one of them.

> How many litres of water does it take to make a litre of mineral water? Interesting question, I found this article[1] which says: - for North American companies, it takes 1.39 liters to make one liter of water - That's less than the global averages of a liter of soda, which requires 2.02 liters of water - A liter of beer, meanwhile, needs 4 liters of water, wine demands 4.74 liters. Hard alcohol, it turns out, is t…

I don't think that includes the plastic bottle.

https://naturalsociety.com/study-analyzes-wastefulness-bottl...

Veg still tends to be worse though.

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Post by homonculus1 »

abdullahkhalids wrote: post #59
ecmascript wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

why do people tweet like this? It is impossible to follow. Like.. just write an article or a blog post instead. :/

Because people don't click on links on twitter as often as they bother to read a tweet thread. But also, I actually like this form of communication. By the nature of the medium (one thought per tweet), you are forced to discard all superfluous details. Instead each tweet/thought must be a strong point. This is compared to a blog, where the only thing holding you back from adding fluff is your own intellectual discipl…

There is a serious disconnect between medium and message when people find it necessary to manually number every message, and stoop to doing so on a regular basis. You might still find it readable but the absurdity of that behavior should at least be a glaring red flag. Twitter's layout is designed around the assumption that discrete posts will be distinct thoughts or status updates, but this breaks when people force even a paragraph through. I find it grossly unreadable to sift through so much whitespace, redundant usernames, redundant time stamps, numerous like and share icons, etc. that interrupt the text when it's broken into tiny chunks in this manner--I can read it, but I hate doing so.

IMO this is both Twitter's fault for existing, since the prevalence of this kind of posting seems to indicate that microblogging is a failed concept, and the userbase's for insisting on using it for content which is obviously unsuitable. Obviously a lot of people are willing to put up with this format but I see it as a huge mess and I avoid Twitter links whenever possible.

Re: Twenty-one cities in India will run out of groundwater by 2020

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Post by abdullahkhalids »

ecmascript wrote: post #61
abdullahkhalids wrote: post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because people don't click on links on twitter as often as they bother to read a tweet thread. But also, I actually like this form of communication. By the nature of the medium (one thought per tweet), you are forced to discard all superfluous details. Instead each tweet/thought must be a strong point. This is compared to a blog, where the only thing holding you back from adding fluff is your own intellectual discipl…

Well, not all discourse needs to happen on twitter. Sure, it is nice when there is something you can actually convey in just a few sentences but I have a hard time reading this. It is hard to follow because my reading gets interrupted, and I need to focus on where I am instead of what information I am receiving. I donno. I just think it's hard and it's very annoying so I'm rather inclined to stop reading because hone…

A tweet thread is also often meant to be chewed upon. Because minimal details are provided with the expectation that the reader will be able to fill in some of the obvious blanks with a little thought. So I usually read these threads a tweet at a time, wondering on the implications of each statement (a lot of times I can't think of any).

But whatever works for you.

Re: Twenty-one cities in India will run out of groundwater by 2020

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Post by yrro »

FerretFred wrote: post #44
chii wrote: post #23

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or go all in, and establish a world government. I think a single governing body is the only true way forward for humanity, if humanity is to move beyond earth and be a space faring civilization.

Talking of space faring .. according to https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_Space_Research_Organi... , the Indian Space Research Organisation budget of 11,538.26 crore (US$1.7 billion)(2019–20 est.) would buy a lot of water infrastructure, but that's obviously not as exciting as going to Space..

All the infrastructure you can built won't solve the fundamental problem: humans are taking water out of the ground faster than it can be replenished, and there are more of them taking more and more water each year. Eventually the train will plow through the buffers...

Re: Twenty-one cities in India will run out of groundwater by 2020

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Post by dang »

ahamedirshad123 wrote: post #28
amrx431 wrote: post #7

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> Granted, redrawing the map based on watershed doesn't solve India's problem Thats a recipe for political disaster. Identity based politics is the only paradigm of politics in India. Currently southern states in India are organised on linguistic identity and every now and then there are statements from main-stream politicians calling for secession and establishing a separate country to counter the influx for North I…

What are you smoking? That's what happen when you try to impose your language on us through some education policies. That's what happens when you remove the Tamil name with some name in a language somewhat foreign to us. And calling us racists? Who coined the name madarasi for South Indians? It's the north of Vindhya.

Posting like this will get you banned here, regardless of how provocative another comment was or you felt like it was. Please make your substantive points without personal attacks and flamebait.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

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