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Lenovo Shipping Ubuntu Linux on 2019 ThinkPad

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Re: Lenovo Shipping Ubuntu Linux on 2019 ThinkPad

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I own an 4K X1-extreme, which is basically the P1 without the Quadro card and Xeon/ECC option. I run Ubuntu 19.04 on it and have so many problems. - Grub has ridiculous performance issues on 4K screens, it renders at less than 1 fps, making it a real pain to do anything in it. - You can't update the bios through Linux, the update tool is windows only. - The Lenovo TB3 dock never works properly. - The dual GPU situati…

> You can't update the bios through Linux, the update tool is windows only.

Are you sure?

https://pcsupport.lenovo.com/au/en/products/laptops-and-netb...

This lists both a bootable image and a Linux utility. I've got standard X1 carbon and have been using the bootable bios updates successfully.

Re: Lenovo Shipping Ubuntu Linux on 2019 ThinkPad

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post #56

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Same for me on a Dell XPS 15. Strange that it wouldn't work on another flagship model such as the X1.

I think it's due to modern stuff such as UEFI and the TPM. There are hacks you can do to flash the BIOS from Linux though, but I always fear bricking my laptop, so I prefer to use the OEM tool.

UEFI makes bios flashing easier & with fwupd (thanks RedHat / Richard Hughes!) it “just works” for those manufacturers that do the work to integrate with the fwupd infrastructure.

Re: Lenovo Shipping Ubuntu Linux on 2019 ThinkPad

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I own an 4K X1-extreme, which is basically the P1 without the Quadro card and Xeon/ECC option. I run Ubuntu 19.04 on it and have so many problems. - Grub has ridiculous performance issues on 4K screens, it renders at less than 1 fps, making it a real pain to do anything in it. - You can't update the bios through Linux, the update tool is windows only. - The Lenovo TB3 dock never works properly. - The dual GPU situati…

I own an t490, also with ubuntu 19.04+gnome + dual boot. I consider my problems are more basic than yours, and more hardware related. - Under linux, the power management is VERY bad. I'm honestly starteled how it can be so bad. I loose 10-13% overnight while in 'deep sleep', compared to only 3% with 7.5 yo MBA. I get 5-6.5 hours of battery life. Less than the 2011 MBA. With windows it it much better - almost on par w…

For power management you need to install tlp https://linrunner.de/en/tlp/tlp.html

Re: Lenovo Shipping Ubuntu Linux on 2019 ThinkPad

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Your second link is about someone who flashed their own copy of Windows 3.1 into the boot ROM of their own ThinkPad X200. Lenovo didn't put Windows 3.1 there, that user did. Your first link is about Lenovo's IdeaPad line. IdeaPad and ThinkPad could well be thought of as products from two different companies. Lenovo was already making laptops when they bought the ThinkPad line from IBM. Their own laptops evolved into…

> They're both part of Lenovo, but are largely separate teams with different business goals and philosophies. Sounds like marketing fairy tale - one part of company is great, second is bad, but we should love both.

Guess you don't run Intel either due to IME

Re: Lenovo Shipping Ubuntu Linux on 2019 ThinkPad

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post #35

I own an 4K X1-extreme, which is basically the P1 without the Quadro card and Xeon/ECC option. I run Ubuntu 19.04 on it and have so many problems. - Grub has ridiculous performance issues on 4K screens, it renders at less than 1 fps, making it a real pain to do anything in it. - You can't update the bios through Linux, the update tool is windows only. - The Lenovo TB3 dock never works properly. - The dual GPU situati…

Fwupd works on all recent thinkpad generations, but you need to run without bios emulator

Re: Lenovo Shipping Ubuntu Linux on 2019 ThinkPad

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Your second link is about someone who flashed their own copy of Windows 3.1 into the boot ROM of their own ThinkPad X200. Lenovo didn't put Windows 3.1 there, that user did. Your first link is about Lenovo's IdeaPad line. IdeaPad and ThinkPad could well be thought of as products from two different companies. Lenovo was already making laptops when they bought the ThinkPad line from IBM. Their own laptops evolved into…

> They're both part of Lenovo, but are largely separate teams with different business goals and philosophies. Sounds like marketing fairy tale - one part of company is great, second is bad, but we should love both.

It's reasonably clear that this separation exists by looking at the hardware build quality too. The general consumer range of Lenovo laptops is absolute garbage.

The biggest problem comes from people recommending Lenovo laptops, without stressing specifically that it's ThinkPads that are being recommended, and not any Lenovo laptop generally.

If you've used either range of laptop extensively, it's very obvious that they're built to very different specs, with very different goals. There doesn't appear to be much (if any) cross team work going on there.

Re: Lenovo Shipping Ubuntu Linux on 2019 ThinkPad

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Which have NVIDIA graphics cards.

Is that a good thing or a bad thing?

In the context of running Linux, I suspect the parent was alluding to that nvidia only provide binary blob drivers rather than open drivers.

Re: Lenovo Shipping Ubuntu Linux on 2019 ThinkPad

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post #44

It seems that Lenovo has been certifying their model for Ubuntu (probably for enterprise customers) for a quite a long time. There are a bit less models recently, but a few already have an Ubuntu 18.04 certification: https://certification.ubuntu.com/desktop/models/?query=&cate...

I didn't find confirmation but I assume being certified with 14.04 and 16.04 means they're still certified with 18.04. Assuming that's the case they've certified pretty much their whole range.

Re: Lenovo Shipping Ubuntu Linux on 2019 ThinkPad

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Interesting, and a sigh that the area of the Windows tax may be ending.

Windows is now an ad delivery platform. That probably sounded like a great plan to MS management, but consumer Windows is now on its way to shovelware status. Microsoft will end up paying hardware makers to include it.

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