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Re: Facebook reveals its cryptocurrency Libra

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Crucial question for competing with Bitcoin, of course, is simple: will it be anonymous enough to buy drugs with?

Neither Bitcoin or this should really be used to buy drugs with.

On the other hand you have an immutable public record of all your transactions (Bitcoin) and on the other hand you have bastions of privacy (Facebook) who is guaranteed to sell your info.

Bitcoin is still better... Known drug transactions will probably be blocked here outright, while in Bitcoin you might just get caught after the fact.

Re: Facebook reveals its cryptocurrency Libra

#63

It’s going to be interesting. “Unlike previous stablecoins, Libra will not be issued by a central party. Instead, Facebook has enlisted 27 fellow Silicon Valley titans—among them PayPal, Visa, Spotify, Mastercard, Uber, and eBay—to operate as preliminary “validator nodes” who will each share a transparent copy of a vast ledger of transactions reflecting all the activity on the network.” That sounds amazingly dystopia…

> That sounds amazingly dystopian. I mean, that’s literally a money built on an oligarchy. By design. IMO, it's a small step towards a better direction. The "validator" consensus (oligarchy) is a much more transparent/inclusive solution compared to the closed financial ecosystems of Wechat/Alipay/Paytm/Grab. If Libra is an oligarchy, closed financial systems are dictatorships

It really does feel like cryptocurrency is how the technical industry will learn/is learning about the financial industry.

Re: Facebook reveals its cryptocurrency Libra

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I'm biased as I'm working on this project. But I'm super happy it's finally out there :) There's a lot of really cool cryptography and tech on this project and there's still a lot for people to discover!

There's a lot of interesting physics in building thermonuclear weapons. Doesn't mean you should do it. Your talents could be used to help the world. Instead, they are being used to enclose common spaces and pull apart the fabric of society. Get a better job?

I'd work on nukes before I'd work at Facebook. Nuclear weapons have arguably prevented WWIII, at least so far. Conversely, if WWIII ever does come, I wouldn't be surprised if Facebook has something to do with causing it.

Re: Facebook reveals its cryptocurrency Libra

#65
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how do i mine it?

from the whitepaper:

    The Libra Association also serves as the entity through which the Libra Reserve
    is managed, and hence the stability and growth of the Libra economy are
    achieved. The association is the only party able to create (mint) and destroy
    (burn) Libra. Coins are only minted when authorized resellers have purchased
    those coins from the association with fiat assets to fully back the new coins.
    Coins are only burned when the authorized resellers sell Libra coin to the
    association in exchange for the underlying assets. Since authorized resellers
    will always be able to sell Libra coins to the reserve at a price equal to the
    value of the basket, the Libra Reserve acts as a “buyer of last resort.” These
    activities of the association are governed and constrained by a Reserve
    Management Policy that can only be changed by a supermajority of the association
    members.

Re: Facebook reveals its cryptocurrency Libra

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I'm biased as I'm working on this project. But I'm super happy it's finally out there :) There's a lot of really cool cryptography and tech on this project and there's still a lot for people to discover!

How good can the judgement of someone still working for Facebook be?

Re: Facebook reveals its cryptocurrency Libra

#67
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It was already tried. It was called Bitcoin. It failed spectacularly. At least this looks like it could work. I trust my government more than I trust these companies so I will keep using fiat, but this may be an option for other people.

Could you elaborate on what Bitcoin failed at?

Re: Facebook reveals its cryptocurrency Libra

#69
I'm not holding any coins. But I have an interest in crypto currencies for some projects I'm developing.

Anyone who thinks this is going to replace ripple, I have some bad news for you.

Ripples main focus is not for users purchasing goods across websites. Its focus is mainly for banks (to hold vast amounts of XRP) when sending sums of money to each other, to be able to convert fiat into XRP and then send that XRP between them and then convert XRP into the receiving fiat currency.

The remittence market is huge and that's where ripple is mainly interested. Both banks and businesses are using it because there is a high trust factor with Ripple.

Now of course Facebook is trying to supplant ripple here, as a user won't need to go to a bank or remittence provider which would use either SWIFT or XRP to send the funds. Instead facebook is hoping to tap into the network effect it has built and two users can send monies between each other using this new token.

Another thing that I have an issue with. The article mentions eliminating "rent seeking". How so? Paypal, Visa, Mastercard all charge a % when processing a transaction. The $10m buying fee needs to be recuperated. Are transactions going to be free? Perhaps... Is running the nodes and network going to be free? It's certainly not.

There is going to be a fee for sending currency across the network. Either an up-front transaction fee or a conversion to FIAT fee. But there will be a fee.

If the same old players are involved, you can bet they want to get paid and the same old players will want to eventually impose their own rules to the game.

Personally, I don't think this will usurp Bitcoin. If anything else, I think it will make people more comfortable with digital currencies and then we'll have more leaps in better tech and the free market will bear fruit of a much lower priced solution than libra coin.

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