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Blood sugar patterns to master as a type 2 diabetic

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Re: Blood sugar patterns to master as a type 2 diabetic

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Not sure this is correct. My understanding is that anaerobic exercise uses glucose and stored glycogen to generate energy and produces lactic acid as a by product. Oxygen is not required for this process but its presence does make glycolysis more efficient and is needed to stop the lactic acid buildup Aerobic is certainly not easy exercise. Your body is releasing stored glycogen from the liver and burning oxygen to c…

It is correct, just look at the definitions of the terms. You somehow have 3 types of exercise...aerobic, anaerobic and short duration/high intensity. There is only aerobic and anaerobic (short duration/high intensity is anaerobic - high intensity is going to result in a build op of lactic acid which in turn will cause the burnout/short duration). Anyway aerobic means “with oxygen” and anaerobic means “without oxygen…

Sorry, I was unclear.

High intensity exercise is generally anaerobic yes, not a third type of exercise.

I was really querying your point about high intensity exercise using lactic acid as an energy source. My understanding is that during any exercise, the muscles will first use creatine phosphate as an energy source and will then use blood glucose and stored glycogen for energy, and it is the breakdown of glucose that creates the energy - lactic acid is a by product of this reaction and is not a source of energy so I don't think this would cause blood sugar levels to increase?

Any increase in blood sugar levels following short duration exercise would be due to the body reacting to the fall in glucose levels and so releasing more from the liver to compensate.

Re: Blood sugar patterns to master as a type 2 diabetic

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It is correct, just look at the definitions of the terms. You somehow have 3 types of exercise...aerobic, anaerobic and short duration/high intensity. There is only aerobic and anaerobic (short duration/high intensity is anaerobic - high intensity is going to result in a build op of lactic acid which in turn will cause the burnout/short duration). Anyway aerobic means “with oxygen” and anaerobic means “without oxygen…

Sorry, I was unclear. High intensity exercise is generally anaerobic yes, not a third type of exercise. I was really querying your point about high intensity exercise using lactic acid as an energy source. My understanding is that during any exercise, the muscles will first use creatine phosphate as an energy source and will then use blood glucose and stored glycogen for energy, and it is the breakdown of glucose tha…

Blood glucose would rise because youre unable to provide enough oxygen to break it down/convert it into energy (ie more unused glucose accumulates in the blood).

Lactate/Lactic acid is a byproduct of broken down glucose, but also temporarily picks up the slack in energy when the body can’t supply enough oxygen to breakdown glucose for energy requirements. Lactic acid is used in the mitochondria of cells and keeps the heart pumping during these intense phases of exercise where the oxygen/glucose can’t do the job...again as lactic acid is temporarily being used as fuel it would follow glucose builds up as the body can’t break it down fast enough and is now using an alternate fuel source.

Creatine as I understand it isn’t a fuel/energy directly, but does facilitate recycling of energy. Moreover, as ATP (energy) is produced in the mitochondria and used by the cell it is converted into ADP, but the body/muscles will use creatine to recycle ADP back into ATP. On its own though I don’t think creatine is fuel/converted into ATP at any point like glucose/ketones.

Re: Blood sugar patterns to master as a type 2 diabetic

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Sorry, I was unclear. High intensity exercise is generally anaerobic yes, not a third type of exercise. I was really querying your point about high intensity exercise using lactic acid as an energy source. My understanding is that during any exercise, the muscles will first use creatine phosphate as an energy source and will then use blood glucose and stored glycogen for energy, and it is the breakdown of glucose tha…

Blood glucose would rise because youre unable to provide enough oxygen to break it down/convert it into energy (ie more unused glucose accumulates in the blood). Lactate/Lactic acid is a byproduct of broken down glucose, but also temporarily picks up the slack in energy when the body can’t supply enough oxygen to breakdown glucose for energy requirements. Lactic acid is used in the mitochondria of cells and keeps the…

Creatine Phosphate is a fuel - it is converted very quickly and the muscles only store tiny amounts (enough for a few seconds only), and creatine is used in recycling ATP as you say.

I didn't realise lactic acid was used to provide energy so thanks for mentioning this - having looked it up though, this produces tiny amounts during anaerobic respiration at which time glucose is still the main energy provider.

Blood glucose may rise because your body has released stored glucose from the liver, but this takes time - there is a delay between blood sugar levels dropping (due to the intense exercise) and the liver releasing stores and it also takes time for the full aerobic cycle to produce significant quantities of energy and convert that glucose

I am most definitely not an expert here so details may be incorrect, but I looked into this when I started running. I was focused on how to maintain energy levels over long distances so may have a different perspective from someone more interested in weight training or other high intensity/short-duration exercise.

I found [1] useful as a simple overview of the different energy producing mechanisms, and [2] goes into far more detail than I can readily understand...

[1] https://www.acefitness.org/fitness-certifications/ace-answer...

[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bioenergetic_systems

I would love to see better explanations of how this all works

Re: Blood sugar patterns to master as a type 2 diabetic

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Blood glucose would rise because youre unable to provide enough oxygen to break it down/convert it into energy (ie more unused glucose accumulates in the blood). Lactate/Lactic acid is a byproduct of broken down glucose, but also temporarily picks up the slack in energy when the body can’t supply enough oxygen to breakdown glucose for energy requirements. Lactic acid is used in the mitochondria of cells and keeps the…

Creatine Phosphate is a fuel - it is converted very quickly and the muscles only store tiny amounts (enough for a few seconds only), and creatine is used in recycling ATP as you say. I didn't realise lactic acid was used to provide energy so thanks for mentioning this - having looked it up though, this produces tiny amounts during anaerobic respiration at which time glucose is still the main energy provider. Blood gl…

I’m a runner also...depends what you mean by long distances, but I’d promote becoming fat adapted and running in ketosis.

I’ve done a full marathon with no fuel (hydration only) in ketosis, pretty awesome and much better than my glucose/gu runs...of course I’ve had some amazing long runs out of ketosis but at certain distances the fueling is a real battle and a battle I’ve lost from time to time. I don’t think there is a good answer for fueling long distances that will work for everyone it’s all about personal experimentation and adaptation.

Re: Blood sugar patterns to master as a type 2 diabetic

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Today, we are going to discuss the normal digestion of carbohydrates, and the abnormal digestion that results in Diabetes Type 1 and Diabetes Type 2.

When you eat a carbohydrate source as bread, potato, etc…Your body can see it either as a simple structure or a Complex; by the means of that, the body does not see bread or potato, instead; the body sees it as compounds. Thus, the body either find these compounds Simple and easy to use or Complex and needs to get simpler. In both scenarios, your body translates it into a source that it can be used for building up itself or as an Energy source. For energy, the cells mostly use the Simple form of carbohydrates which is glucose.

Then the glucose is absorbed through the mouth, stomach, and gut to your bloodstream, to be distributed and taken up by every cell in the body. Let’s discuss how particularly Glucose is absorbed in mouth, stomach, and gut.

To breakdown complex structures there are tools and helpers that our body uses called “Enzymes”. In the mouth, there is an enzyme called “Salivary Amylase”, which provides our body with the needed glucose from complex compounds.

More Knowledge: https://www.fitnesshealthforever.com/health-tips/overview-fo...

Re: Blood sugar patterns to master as a type 2 diabetic

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Not downvoting, but not everybody can reverse it. For some it's linked to obesity and such, but others have a perfectly healthy body weight and still have diabetes. There seems to be quite a bit of individual variation.

>>Not downvoting, but not everybody can reverse it. I am OK with people downvoting as long as they reason it out. Here in HN, people are not willing to accept that changing food habits can reverse most lifestyle disease. There are two types - Type 1 and Type 2. Type 1, where pancreas do not produce enough insulin, is not reversible as per current understanding. Type 2 is reversible, at least up to a point (maybe, a f…

Type 2 is reversible, at least up to a point (maybe, a few decades).

What exactly does this mean?

Re: Blood sugar patterns to master as a type 2 diabetic

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I’ve heard that cutting out nearly all carbohydrates from the diet basically causes permanent remission of type 2 diabetes. Is this true?

Type II diabetic here. I think "permanent remission" is a misleading phrase. I think a better phrasing would be along the lines of "...cutting out nearly all carbohydrates ... allows the diabetic to have 'normal' results for standard blood tests such as fasting glucose and hemoglobin A1c." My doctor said to me my last check-up, "These numbers are great! If a doctor were to see these, they wouldn't be able to tell you…

Remission in medicine is the absense of symptoms without requiring treatment. Under remission, a person passes all diagnosis tests, without doing anything different than a normal, healthy person.

Having to avoid carbs to keep low blood glucose is similar to an allergy that does not show unless you are exposed to the allergen; that is NOT remission.

I do research on the topic; there is indeed a lot of confusion online, but remission of t2dm has been possible. www.diabetesremission.org .Working my ass to disseminate well grounded knowledge on that.

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