When will governments start selling licenses to hunt poachers?
I suppose the market for parts of dismembered idealistic Westerners might offset the market for animal parts, if that's what you're thinking.
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#62Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yes, hunting is a thing
Hunting poachers is a thing.
IMO, hunting poachers should be legal, pricey, and encouraged. Sell licenses to hunt poachers, deputize them, and use the proceeds to improve protection of the wildlife.
Obviously only part of the solution, but considering that the poachers, especially of elephants & rhinos are now largely part of organized crime syndicates, totally fair.
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#63Earlier quoted context omitted.
Hunting poachers is a thing.
IMO, hunting poachers should be legal, pricey, and encouraged. Sell licenses to hunt poachers, deputize them, and use the proceeds to improve protection of the wildlife. Obviously only part of the solution, but considering that the poachers, especially of elephants & rhinos are now largely part of organized crime syndicates, totally fair.
What happened to due process?
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#64When will governments start selling licenses to hunt poachers?
Hunt poachers, then sell their organs legally at market price, and then take a cut of the profits. This way the government does not even have to pay for anything.
Of course, highly controversial idea, but if you really want to curb down poaching, it might be a good way to fight back with better incentives.
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#65When will governments start selling licenses to hunt poachers?
Not here, please.
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The problem here is that poachers could have guns, so even though gorillas are extremely strong, and a gorilla with a knife is a scary prospect close-up, a poacher with a gun wouldn't have much problem killing the gorilla. The solution is simple: give guns to gorillas and teach them to shoot them. Now we'll have gorilla warfare...
"Well, first we had the right to arm bears, and then everyone said that wasn't fair. Now we're arming gorillas, too!"
What we fear most: Kids with Guns.
- Gorillaz
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#67> "If we could get more of them doing it, it would be great," he joked. Karisoke's Vecellio, though, said actively instructing the apes would be against the center's ethos. "No we can't teach them," she said. "We try as much as we can to not interfere with the gorillas. We don't want to affect their natural behavior." I would think that the main danger is in habituating the gorillas to humans, teaching them that we'r…
Pepper spray is actually quite damaging.
It was an example, captain pedantic.
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#69> "If we could get more of them doing it, it would be great," he joked. Karisoke's Vecellio, though, said actively instructing the apes would be against the center's ethos. "No we can't teach them," she said. "We try as much as we can to not interfere with the gorillas. We don't want to affect their natural behavior." I would think that the main danger is in habituating the gorillas to humans, teaching them that we'r…
Definitely this moral grey area where ethics arguments on both sides are completely valid.
- Messing with natural behavior
vs
- Not being able to adequately defend oneself because we're stuck debating an ethics question
While it is a bit of a straw man attack - if this were humans, the answer would be clear.
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I feel that if any human was found to be teaching gorillas how to do human things, they would ultimately suffer punishment like Prometheus who taught humans how to use the fire of the gods.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Koko_(gorilla) : ”Hanabiko "Koko" (July 4, 1971 – June 19, 2018) was a female western lowland gorilla known for having learned a large number of hand signs from a modified version of American Sign Language (ASL)” Wikipedia thinks Koko’s teacher still is alive (aged 72), so punishment certainly wasn’t swift.
Reports of actual language use by Koko were famously exaggerated, and only seemed to happen with her teacher working with her. Hardly stealing fire.