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Google's Captcha in Firefox vs. in Chrome

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Re: Google's Captcha in Firefox vs. in Chrome

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The slow animation is the worst. You really want to punch someone responsible in the face. And I never figure out how to solve the traffic light riddle.

Include the traffic light poles.

I've never included the traffic light poles.

Re: Google's Captcha in Firefox vs. in Chrome

#63

Google Captcha is a complete mess at this point and I often leave websites that use it if it's not essential to what I am doing

The newest version is going to be invisible - i.e. it just "works" without a questionnaire. It's based on a scoring system that doesn't prompt users unless the website owner wants to prompt them below a specific score. You've likely already used it but don't remember it because it was invisible.

Re: Google's Captcha in Firefox vs. in Chrome

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there are updates coming that will make it much more tied to your google account. i fear that it will mean anybody not currently logged in is assumed to be a robot. (even more so than now, i mean.)

According to the recent Planet Money podcast on Captcha, the upcoming changes will only use the signal of whether or not you have an account, and not any account-based data, since it will be domain based on the website or something. Also, they're doing away with the questionnaire. It works by using a scoring system or something similar since it loads on the pages leading up to form fills. Edit: Source for you disbeli…

You still believe PR fairytales?

Re: Google's Captcha in Firefox vs. in Chrome

#65

now that's weird. firefox is my main browser (developer edition on linux, windows and macos) and i never get captchas. maybe it's because i don't use umatrix (i only use ublock origin)? maybe because i'm always logged-in in at least one google account?

I use ublock but stock Firefox otherwise. I am also logged into a Google account most of the time, but still get impossible captchas unless I switch to Chrome.

Re: Google's Captcha in Firefox vs. in Chrome

#67

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The user is complaining about the slow CSS animations. It's definitely a bug though not something they did on purpose. I remember having the same issue on Chrome as well.

IIRC, it is something they do on purpose, to make it clear to the user something is happening while rate-limiting challenges given to the user.

Oh no Google ReCaptcha doesn't work that way. In case of rate limiting, they will just throw an error. It's probably some clever JS or CSS that got a bug in it. Here's the official thread on GH: https://github.com/google/recaptcha/issues/268

Disclaimer: We built a solution at SerpApi.com to solve those offline using ML. Timing of solving doesn't matter. It will be odd that they do that just to annoy user when it's not a technical limitation.

Re: Google's Captcha in Firefox vs. in Chrome

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The fire hydrant example... I deal with this every day. It takes soooo looooong to load, it's really ridiculous.

There have literally been times where I debated whether or not I wanted to purchase something because of the knowledge that I would have to solve Google's captcha. Humble Bundle, in particular--the login process for me (due to uBlock+uMatrix installed) is like this:

1) Try to login

2) Login doesn't show up--go to uMatrix and whitelist some crap.

3) Try to login again.

4) First phase of login completes, now blank when site tries to load Google captcha.

5) Whitelist Google captcha frames in uMatrix and reload again.

6) Login for the third time, Google captcha now displays properly.

7) Spend 10 minutes solving captchas. If I'm lucky, the first "Verify/Submit" will work. If not, I probably need to whitelist cookies for it within uMatrix and reload/try again.

8) Get notification from HumbleBundle that "You have not logged in from this browser before" and wait for a Verification email to hit my inbox.

9) Enter verification code. Site usually then logs me out for some reason, even though it was successful.

10) Login again. Solve Google Captchas again. Finally allowed to login.

11) Finally buy the goddamn thing I was there to buy.

12) Search Amazon for wig.

Re: Google's Captcha in Firefox vs. in Chrome

#70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

there are updates coming that will make it much more tied to your google account. i fear that it will mean anybody not currently logged in is assumed to be a robot. (even more so than now, i mean.)

ReCAPTCHAv3. It will differ from ReCAPTCHAv2 in one important respect: it will no longer ask you any questions, meaning it will no longer give you the opportunity to appeal it's snap judgement of you. https://developers.google.com/recaptcha/docs/v3

> "reCAPTCHA v3 will never interrupt your users, so you can run it whenever you like without affecting conversion. reCAPTCHA works best when it has the most context about interactions with your site, which comes from seeing both legitimate and abusive behavior. For this reason, we recommend including reCAPTCHA verification on forms or actions as well as in the background of pages for analytics."

Just what the world needs, another tracking script...

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