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Netflix Has 175 Days Left to Pull Off a Miracle

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Re: Netflix Has 175 Days Left to Pull Off a Miracle

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Post by wolco »

AznHisoka wrote: post #17
agent00f wrote: post #4

These are $10/month subs which are akin to channel packages. Just because some will also sub to the Disney chan package doesn't mean they'll drop Netflix. Would surprise no one if the author were shorting Netflix.

It also doesnt mean nobody will drop Netflix. If you are paying money to Netflix and you are consistently not finding the content you expect to watch, you are going to question the value of your subscription. Some will cancel if they find the value too low.

Does Disney change the balance for you? Not at all, you either find something or not.

Re: Netflix Has 175 Days Left to Pull Off a Miracle

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Post by tzs »

Where do Disney's TV channels fit into this? Besides the obvious Disney Channel, Disney XD, and Disney Junior, they also own the FX channels and Freeform.

Their movies currently eventually make it to those, and that is mostly where I've watched them. Sure, they take some time to get there. They are currently just up to 2016, with Moana, Finding Dory, Rogue One, and Doctor Strange being where they are up to in Disney animation, Pixar animation, Star Wars, and Marvel, respectively. But none of their franchises are ones that I need to keep current with anymore [1], so I don't mind.

[1] I did subscribe to Netflix for a month a few months ago specifically to get up to date on Marvel, so I could see Endgame in theaters. That was a special case because I decided it would be too hard to avoid major spoilers in the two or three years it would take to show up on cable.

Re: Netflix Has 175 Days Left to Pull Off a Miracle

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Post by beatgammit »

RussianCow wrote: post #41
mikeash wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It’s annoying as a user to juggle subscriptions. If I want to watch something, I have to figure out where it’s available, sign up if I don’t currently have a subscription, worry about forgetting services and having a bunch of monthly payments I’m not using. End result: I watch a lot of YouTube and pretty much gave up on the rest. Contrast with music, where I have a single subscription and get access to everything I w…

On the other hand, it's better than the alternative with cable providers where your only choices are the cheap, basic package with only 12 channels, or the really expensive package with >100 channels, of which you'll only ever watch a couple. Juggling multiple subscriptions is annoying, yes, but at least you can pick and choose what content you want to pay for. Personally, Netflix has more than enough content for me…

We're the same way, but we have Amazon as well, mostly because of the shipping side. There are series that I'd like to watch, but it's not available on either, so I just don't bother.

In fact, I started getting back into watching TV shows after a couple years of not watching much, and then the fragmentation with Netflix losing content and creating their own happened, and now I just don't watch nearly as much and we just watch occasionally for family movie/TV time. I have friends that mention various series and I've just stopped bothering looking anymore because, chances are, it's not on a network I already have access to.

My wife has gone back to watching movies at the theater, I'm playing more video games, and the only reason we pay for streaming anymore is for the kids. I used to enjoy talking about shows with friends, but now it feels like everyone has access to different content, so there's less common ground than before.

I'd be happy to pay a little extra for access to certain content, I just don't want to have to remember which service provides which content.

Re: Netflix Has 175 Days Left to Pull Off a Miracle

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Post by 013a »

rayiner wrote: post #28

I don’t understand why so many people think this is a bad thing. Content distribution has become a commodity, thanks to AWS and the like. The codecs and whatnot are all standardized. And it turns out that consumers don’t really care about recommendation systems and similar accouterments. So the competition has shifted to the thing that people care about: content. When the market is competing over the thing people car…

No one said it was a bad thing for consumers. It’s a bad thing for Netflix.

Re: Netflix Has 175 Days Left to Pull Off a Miracle

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Post by mikeash »

RussianCow wrote: post #41
mikeash wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It’s annoying as a user to juggle subscriptions. If I want to watch something, I have to figure out where it’s available, sign up if I don’t currently have a subscription, worry about forgetting services and having a bunch of monthly payments I’m not using. End result: I watch a lot of YouTube and pretty much gave up on the rest. Contrast with music, where I have a single subscription and get access to everything I w…

On the other hand, it's better than the alternative with cable providers where your only choices are the cheap, basic package with only 12 channels, or the really expensive package with >100 channels, of which you'll only ever watch a couple. Juggling multiple subscriptions is annoying, yes, but at least you can pick and choose what content you want to pay for. Personally, Netflix has more than enough content for me…

It’s definitely better than it could be. It’s just a stark contrast with the way it is in music.

Re: Netflix Has 175 Days Left to Pull Off a Miracle

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Post by ykevinator »

rayiner wrote: post #28

I don’t understand why so many people think this is a bad thing. Content distribution has become a commodity, thanks to AWS and the like. The codecs and whatnot are all standardized. And it turns out that consumers don’t really care about recommendation systems and similar accouterments. So the competition has shifted to the thing that people care about: content. When the market is competing over the thing people car…

Content and price.

Re: Netflix Has 175 Days Left to Pull Off a Miracle

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Post by mrfusion »

oplav wrote: post #13
high_derivative wrote: post #5

This article has incredible annoying spacing (one sentence per paragraph). Is this meant to read like an unrolled Twitter thread? Content wise: I recently cancelled my Netflix again because despite a flood of new shows, all feel incredibly generic and formulaic. I like shows across genres, from teenage romance to sitcom to thriller, and I am looking forward to watching e.g. Narcos new season when it hits, there are a…

After finding myself browsing through too many evenings in a row, I always cancel until something I know I want returns for a new season, then resubscribe for a month. I find myself doing this with my Hulu subscription. They have a built-in hold function that pauses your account for up to 12 weeks. Since I typically watch shows in bulk (or binge), only having the subscription active one out of every four months works…

Hmm maybe a startup idea there. Help a user plan out what to watch over six months or a year and subscribe and cancel subscriptions for them behind the scenes so they get a cheap and also seamless viewing experience.

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Post by reallydude »

coldtea wrote: post #58

> Netflix changed how we watch TV, but it didn’t really change what we watch… Yeah, so? Who said we need/want/will change what we watch? > The problem is that no matter how much Netflix spends, it has no chance to catch up with its biggest rival… Disney? Who the fuck cares for Disney? 8 year olds or parents buying a subscription for them? > Disney owns Marvel, Pixar Animations, Star Wars, ESPN, National Geographic, M…

> Mickey wont be making any revivals, and most people don't get Netflix to watch Marvel, Pixar, Star Wars, or National Geographic.

These articles act like I want to watch the same movies 100 times, so of course I'll drop a service with a dedication to creating new content. It makes no sense, but it does sound a lot like marketing hype by an affiliate.

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Post by shshhdhs »

bscphil wrote: post #60
nabla9 wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Disney copying Netflix makes it just harder for the customers. The whole Netflix subscription business model should die. When content distribution is commodity as you say, the only service they provide is easy payment. Disney, Netflix, Amazon, HBO, Spotify etc. divide content between them and if you want to watch four shows, listen a music and read an ebook, you may have to subscribe 7 or more content delivery system…

>People should be able to pay for the individual series or even episodes. Isn't this already a thing? iTunes and Amazon both allow you to purchase individual episodes or season passes.

And they let you subscribe to other services through their payment processing. And if you have a FireTV device, you can search for content across all those providers
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