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Tor Browser 8.5

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Re: Tor Browser 8.5

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post #36

Are there any casual users of Tor around? Someone who does it not for the sake of safety, but just privacy? I'd happily use Tor, but the last time I used it (which was ~5 years ago), it was terribly slow for regular browsing (not streaming, or anything considered bandwidth heavy).

I use Tor in Android when lunching at Ikea Frankfurt as their free Wlan blocks some news sites such as presstv.com Via Tor I can read all world news while eating.

Re: Tor Browser 8.5

#62
post #60

Tor Browser might be the least mainstream safe browser on the Internet: * It permanently tracks the lagging ESR Firefox. * It puts its users on Tor, which "anonymizes" them but also flags their traffic as interesting. * It collapses all those users down to a single set of browser releases, making it cost-effective to target exploits to. Use Firefox if you really like Firefox, but use the most recent version you can p…

Though it's important to note that using Tor directly rather than the browser bundle means that your browser fingerprint is even more distinct than it would otherwise be.

Re: Tor Browser 8.5

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post #18

Allow me to send a big shoutout and my deepest thanks to the maintainers and volunteers of both the Tor Browser and the Tor Project in general. You make the world a better place, even if the majority of the population don't realise they should pay more attention to your work. You're the real MVPs!

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Re: Tor Browser 8.5

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post #34
post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I believe thats just the definition for deep web.

Both terms are just stupid. Deep web: stuff not indexed by search engines. Private forums, non-public social media accounts, Telegram rooms, Discord servers etc. are technically "deep web". Dark web: a subset of deep web that requires specific software or configuration to access. Slightly more precise, but still includes every possible use case for IPFS, Dat, ".onion" etc. Note that this is nowhere close to what peop…

There are gateways to onion services and IPFS, so those are "indexed by search engines" without any change necessary. Furthermore, any search engine has to be adapted to the medium used, and there are specialized search engines for pretty much anything including Freenet and I2P etc, so saying that the "dark web" is a subset of the "deep web" is incorrect. There is some overlap, but it's not a "part of" relationship.

The problem is that there is one (academic) definition of "deep web", but many incompatible definitions of "dark web", invented by the media basically for whatever they want it to be.

Re: Tor Browser 8.5

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post #11

I'm rooting for Mozilla and the Tor Project to uplift Tor into Firefox. Imagine a world where people need to opt in to get less privacy.

I'm not. I prefer the Tor Project to make their decisions independently of Mozilla, which has a worse track record in most areas.

Additionally, tor isn't something that every Internet user should be using. I say this because when they get 10 ReCaptchas in a row, then try to log into their bank and have their credit card automatically frozen, then wonder why google search isn't working, then give up and just use Facebook all day anyway, they will definitely not be appreciating the 'anonymity' that we gave them.

Re: Tor Browser 8.5

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post #29
post #18

Allow me to send a big shoutout and my deepest thanks to the maintainers and volunteers of both the Tor Browser and the Tor Project in general. You make the world a better place, even if the majority of the population don't realise they should pay more attention to your work. You're the real MVPs!

more people ought to use TOR so that the users who _need_ tor gets the protection of anonymity in a crowd. If nobody uses TOR, then TOR users immediately becomes suspicious and nothing prevents the real world investigation from uncovering them.

Nitpick, but it’s Tor not TOR

Re: Tor Browser 8.5

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post #36

Are there any casual users of Tor around? Someone who does it not for the sake of safety, but just privacy? I'd happily use Tor, but the last time I used it (which was ~5 years ago), it was terribly slow for regular browsing (not streaming, or anything considered bandwidth heavy).

I use orbot https://guardianproject.info/apps/orbot/ on my phone. I route most of my phone's traffic through Tor and it doesn't impact speed much, granted I mostly use my phone for messaging and not so much for browsing or working.

Re: Tor Browser 8.5

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post #65
post #11

I'm rooting for Mozilla and the Tor Project to uplift Tor into Firefox. Imagine a world where people need to opt in to get less privacy.

I'm not. I prefer the Tor Project to make their decisions independently of Mozilla, which has a worse track record in most areas. Additionally, tor isn't something that every Internet user should be using. I say this because when they get 10 ReCaptchas in a row, then try to log into their bank and have their credit card automatically frozen, then wonder why google search isn't working, then give up and just use Faceb…

The usability drawbacks are there because companies can afford to discriminate against Tor users. Once more people use Tor, it becomes expensive to not support them, and the usability issues present today are solved through innovation.

Regarding decision making, Mozilla integrating Tor into Firefox does not mean that the Tor Project has to give up its autonomy.

Re: Tor Browser 8.5

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post #11

I'm rooting for Mozilla and the Tor Project to uplift Tor into Firefox. Imagine a world where people need to opt in to get less privacy.

It's interesting, the only way that would work is if they also turn every browser into a through node, which would be both highly controversial while also a great boon to the Tor network as a whole

Using "Tor mode" instead of "private mode" in regular Firefox would be nice.

Re: Tor Browser 8.5

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post #36

Are there any casual users of Tor around? Someone who does it not for the sake of safety, but just privacy? I'd happily use Tor, but the last time I used it (which was ~5 years ago), it was terribly slow for regular browsing (not streaming, or anything considered bandwidth heavy).

All the time for everything that is not very personal and sensitive. Youtube is more than fast enough.
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