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Re: Microsoft Edge preview builds for macOS

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Post by Someone1234 »

minikites wrote: post #34
uptown wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

From a practical standpoint exactly what does Google collect from one’s browsing activity when they use Chrome? Not sure I’ve ever seen the technical analysis of what kinds of exposure users have.

I'm sure it's not limited to this but there are a lot of dark UI patterns in Chrome, e.g. any Google web login also logs you in to Chrome so Google "has permission" to record your browsing history and other browsing data.

After the blowback from auto sign-in they added an option to disable that on both Chrome and ChromeOS.

Settings -> Advanced -> Allow Chrome Sign-in

If you want even more control use ADMX (enterprise policies) to permanently disable it. For example on Windows visit Software\Policies\Google\Chrome\ in either HKLM or HKCU and set SyncDisabled 1, EnableSyncConsent 0, BrowserSignin 0.

Full list/docs:

https://www.chromium.org/administrators/policy-list-3

Re: Microsoft Edge preview builds for macOS

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Post by nsomaru »

toastal wrote: post #15
gshdg wrote: post #2

I’m really interested to find out how they’re approaching privacy. If they take a strong stance, this might be a good alternative to chrome for those sites that support nothing else.

Why not just use Brave then?

Broken on Debian stable due to a sandbox issue not solved for many months.

Not willing to compromise security to run Brave which it seemed the workaround at the time did.

Re: Microsoft Edge preview builds for macOS

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Post by mcny »

tapoxi wrote: post #45
princekolt wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why not Safari? It's fast, power-efficient, and native.

In my case our SSO requires a FIDO U2F hardware token and Safari doesn't support FIDO U2F at all. Someone wrote a third party extension but I can't get that working.

> In my case our SSO requires a FIDO U2F hardware token and Safari doesn't support FIDO U2F at all. Someone wrote a third party extension but I can't get that working.

If there is one specific website that requires Google Chrome, you could use Google Chrome for that and use Mozilla Firefox for everything else?

Re: Microsoft Edge preview builds for macOS

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Post by benatkin »

Someone1234 wrote: post #61
minikites wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm sure it's not limited to this but there are a lot of dark UI patterns in Chrome, e.g. any Google web login also logs you in to Chrome so Google "has permission" to record your browsing history and other browsing data.

After the blowback from auto sign-in they added an option to disable that on both Chrome and ChromeOS. Settings -> Advanced -> Allow Chrome Sign-in If you want even more control use ADMX (enterprise policies) to permanently disable it. For example on Windows visit Software\Policies\Google\Chrome\ in either HKLM or HKCU and set SyncDisabled 1, EnableSyncConsent 0, BrowserSignin 0. Full list/docs: https://www.chromium.…

I deal with it by having a separate google profile (“user”) and barely using it outside of gmail and google docs. I just let it sync.

Re: Microsoft Edge preview builds for macOS

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Post by jorisw »

eddyg wrote: post #24
fnordsensei wrote: post #16

How come that every single Microsoft application for MacOS requires an installation? It makes me suspicious that they're gunking things up unnecessarily.

see https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19967190

Microsoft's added value right there.

Re: Microsoft Edge preview builds for macOS

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Post by gshdg »

princekolt wrote: post #43
gshdg wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And a lot of stupidly optimized-for-chrome sites break in it. Plus extensibility is limited.

Maybe if everything you use is a web-app that makes sense, but I avoid that like the plague. Maybe in the wonderful world of Silicon Valley you can rely on that, but in the real world internet connectivity can be choppy, especially when inside trains and planes.

Most startup workplaces these days use a lot of SaaS apps. Not like you have a choice to avoid web apps.

Re: Microsoft Edge preview builds for macOS

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Post by ernesth »

SentientNo4 wrote: post #7
adgasf wrote: post #4

Question about MS strategy: why would someone use this over Chromium or Firefox?

I assume they bet on people who want to use the Chromium engine without all the Google stuff and corporate people who use macs but work with MS infrastructure (like Exchange and Sharepoint).

> people who want to use the Chromium engine without all the Google stuff

Why would those people not use the chromium browser?

Re: Microsoft Edge preview builds for macOS

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Post by rsweeney21 »

Let's say Microsoft finds a way to gain a large market share with Edge. Couldn't they cause significant damage to Google if they enabled ad blocking by default? 90% of Google revenue is still ad revenue. Say they got 50% market share. If all of the sudden 50% of internet users started blocking ads, wouldn't that be a pretty bad thing for Google? Like put them out of business overnight kind of bad? While not hurting Microsoft at all?

I wonder if Google saw this vulnerability years ago and so they decided to build Chrome to protect themselves.

Re: Microsoft Edge preview builds for macOS

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Post by pwinnski »

gshdg wrote: post #41
princekolt wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why not Safari? It's fast, power-efficient, and native.

And a lot of stupidly optimized-for-chrome sites break in it. Plus extensibility is limited.

Are these publicly-available sites, or private web apps?

I can't remember seeing sites that break Safari, but I'm sure I'm just lucky.

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